David Gillespie - Bread/carbs inhibiting withdrawal??

12 Jul 2012 1:46 AM

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I don't recall him saying that. He says that artificial sweeteners are probably not good for you, and not a long term option, but that he doesn't think he could have got through withdrawal without them.

12 Jul 2012 11:22 AM

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Sorry guys, at the moment the diet cokes and coffees are keeping me sane, need my caffeine fix to keep up with the kids ATM!! :) Will cut back once I can sort my diet out a bit better. But anyway, yeah, You're right, it shouldn't be complicated. One of the things that I looked back on with David's book, and read on the internet with regards to fructose malabsorption is that wheat contains fructose. So here misinformed me thinks im making the somewhat "healthier" takeaway choice of vegetarian Pizza, but unbeknownst its riddled with fructose!! Would be better off with a burger combo from Maccas!!!! :/ Its my weight watchers mindset... (or mind control?? EEK!) :P Once I can cut back on the wheat, I think it will help my withdrawal process complete and therefore the appetite control will kick in. Wont feel the need to chow even on dextrose ice cream as tasty as it is :) Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply and give me your honest opinions. I really appreciate the opinions of people who understand the concept from David's book. Will give u an update in the next few weeks

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12 Jul 2012 5:42 PM

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Brooke Lawson wrote:
Sorry guys, at the moment the diet cokes and coffees are keeping me sane, need my caffeine fix to keep up with the kids ATM!! :) Will cut back once I can sort my diet out a bit better. But anyway, yeah, You're right, it shouldn't be complicated. One of the things that I looked back on with David's book, and read on the internet with regards to fructose malabsorption is that wheat contains fructose. So here misinformed me thinks im making the somewhat "healthier" takeaway choice of vegetarian Pizza, but unbeknownst its riddled with fructose!! Would be better off with a burger combo from Maccas!!!! :/ Its my weight watchers mindset... (or mind control?? EEK!) :P Once I can cut back on the wheat, I think it will help my withdrawal process complete and therefore the appetite control will kick in. Wont feel the need to chow even on dextrose ice cream as tasty as it is :) Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply and give me your honest opinions. I really appreciate the opinions of people who understand the concept from David's book. Will give u an update in the next few weeks

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Well, I doubt that. I'm not sure that the amount of fructose in wheat is going to be enough to make a difference, I'd bet it's the same as fruit - it's there with fibre and not in big enough numbers to matter. Your Maccas burger bun has sugar added as well, plus sugar in the sauce ( there's sugar in the tomato sauce on the pizza, too ). But, the best thing is to avoid any fast food with bread in it altogether.

I am reading 'sweet poison' for the first time ( I'd read the other two ), and just read the section on drinks. He definitely says he used diet drinks to help himself come down off sugar, then stopped drinking them at the end.

I think we can find fructose in all sorts of foods where it does not matter, simply because of the amount that is contained, relative to how much food we're likely to eat. It's possible that eating too much bread is not a good thing, but I don't think you need to cut out bread - I eat two pieces a day, breakfast and lunch, and have since I started this, and my appetite control kicked in just fine.

12 Jul 2012 7:13 PM

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There is actually good options for take away, we have it once in a while as a special treat. Instead of the pizza you can get subway forget the bread just go the salad option with extra meat and cheese. My fav is the steak ones. I totally understand about the caffine, I've got 2 littlies of my own, 5.5year and 4, which is why I have a double shot latte every morning and about 5 cups of tea a day lol. I don't see any problems with the diet softdrinks for the moment, eventually you just won't want it anymore, that's what happened for me I just didn't feel like drinking them anymore. Instead I have mineral water with a splash of lemon or lime juice, it's quite refreshing. Your appetite will kick in, with some it can take a little time to fully kick in, we've spend all our lives eating sugar so it will take some time for the body to heal itself. I also find about that time of month everything gets screwed up, I eat more and I crave sweet stuff (it's the only time of the month where I will eat dextrose treats). So hormones can play a big part in things.

17 Oct 2012 12:07 AM

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Brooke Lawson wrote:
Wow, lots of input here, thanks all for taking the time

Only make dextrose ice cream once a week, but it makes a litre tub all up so it lasts for 3 or 4 desserts worth for hubs and I. Probably should limit it to once a week, but its just so tasty :P I will work on my willpower with that. Also sometimes still feel peckish after dinner so will maybe have some cashews instead, see what happens

Fructose intolerance is when fructose is not absorbed properly in the gut and a build up of hydrogen gasses is formed, and causes the same reactions as one who is lactose intolerant: Nausea, bloating, flatulence, diahorrea, fatigue. Hydrogen levels are monitiored on a machine to diagnose it. I am not Lactose intolerant, but I never used to drink milk because it made me feel bloated. Only used to have skim milk on cereal. It has only been since reading Sweet poison that I have started drinking it. Zymil just is easier to dring for me, I feel less bloated.

I dont know alot about the intolerance yet, just got diagnosed today. But it explains why I feel like crap when I eat the Pizza :P

Thanks again for all your input. I appreciate you taking the time to tell me your opinion. Will not be giving up my fructose free quest, cos regardless of the lack of weight loss Im feeling so good for it!! The weight loss will probaby come in time with some tweaking of my diet. But I do think that carbs are my downfall, and will work on uping my protien intake.

Re: Fructose Intolerance - I wouldn't mind betting that EVERYONE is fructose intolerant...!! I'd love to see 20 random people have a turn on that breath machine and reckon they'd all come out with the same results... were you tested through a Naturopath?

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