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  • 28 Mar 2012 3:38 AM
    Message # 870432
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    I have made a chocolate from scratch also.I am a novice so the easier the better.
    The recipe is as follows-125 grams of copha melted over a low heat
    125 grams of dextrose powder
    5 tablespoons of cocoa
    5 tablespoon of full cream milk powder
    Pinch of salt
    Sift dry ingridients add melted copha and stir. Spread onto greased proof or baking paper and with the back of a spoon spread out. When it starts to harden use the back of a knife or spatula to mark where you want to break.
    I have tried it twice the second time adding crushed walnuts. It melts in your mouth just like the bought ones.
  • 21 Jul 2012 10:40 PM
    Reply # 1016421 on 870432
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    Liz Nemtsas wrote:I have made a chocolate from scratch also.I am a novice so the easier the better.
    The recipe is as follows-125 grams of copha melted over a low heat
    125 grams of dextrose powder
    5 tablespoons of cocoa
    5 tablespoon of full cream milk powder
    Pinch of salt
    Sift dry ingridients add melted copha and stir. Spread onto greased proof or baking paper and with the back of a spoon spread out. When it starts to harden use the back of a knife or spatula to mark where you want to break.
    I have tried it twice the second time adding crushed walnuts. It melts in your mouth just like the bought ones.
    Liz from what I have read on here copha is a big no no because its saturated fats and bad for you etc. The general consensus seems to be to use coconut oil instead because its the good oil.  

    I am only just over two weeks in and no expert by any means but I would be interested to know also because Im dying to make and try some of this chocolate but don't know which receipe to try.  Hopefully someone else will comment and let us both know :)
  • 22 Jul 2012 7:06 PM
    Reply # 1016844 on 870432
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    Sugar free chocolate is increasingly easy to find.  Buying it means you get chocolate made with cocoa butter instead of cocoa powder ( these recipes all basically make compound chocolate ).  Someone actually posted recently in the 'introduce' forum to say they sell it, by mail order.

    There's two aspects to David's books, the sugar free aspect, and the 'avoid seed oils' aspect.  They do not rely on each other and a lot of people follow one and not the other, I bet a lot of people have actually read Sweet Poison and not Big Fat Lies.  So, I would agree, for those who follow the whole thing, copha is definitely out.


  • 22 Jul 2012 10:24 PM
    Reply # 1016989 on 1016844
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    Christian Graus wrote:Sugar free chocolate is increasingly easy to find.  Buying it means you get chocolate made with cocoa butter instead of cocoa powder ( these recipes all basically make compound chocolate ).  Someone actually posted recently in the 'introduce' forum to say they sell it, by mail order.

    There's two aspects to David's books, the sugar free aspect, and the 'avoid seed oils' aspect.  They do not rely on each other and a lot of people follow one and not the other, I bet a lot of people have actually read Sweet Poison and not Big Fat Lies.  So, I would agree, for those who follow the whole thing, copha is definitely out.


    Christian, where does one acquire 'cocoa butter?"
    and I think I remember seeing something about some syrup I wasn't sure where to get either?
  • 22 Jul 2012 10:29 PM
    Reply # 1016991 on 870432
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    I was just looking through the other chocolate receipes of the home made chocolate and they had coconut oil, rice malt syrum, and cacao - I have no idea what these look like or where to buy them from?
  • 22 Jul 2012 11:08 PM
    Reply # 1017007 on 870432
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    I've made chocolate at home a few times.  But regarding copha, it's a very common question actually and over on the free forum someone has also posted the question, this is what I originally said.

     did a bit of a search and this is what David said about Copha on Facebook

    Quote:
    Copha is coconut oil that has been hydrogenated to make it solid at higher temps.  Coconut oil is almost all saurated to being with so only a ver small percentage would be hydogenated - that being said, it will contain some trans-fats (which is not great) - maybe cocoa butter is an alternative?


    I also found this on wikipedia

    Quote:
    If hydrogenation is taken to completion (i.e., the oil is "fully hydrogenated"), there are no trans fats remaining. There are no natural cis-fats either. Only partial hydrogenation produces trans fats.

    Regarding making chocolate itself, your supposed to use cocoa beans (which are very hard to find but you can get them online), and you use different processed to get the chocolate liquor (it's the chocolate liquid extracted from the bean).  There is a further process, which extracts the cocoa butter and you also then get cocoa powder.  Sooooo.... to make a basic home made chocolate you want to buy some cocoa butter, add cocoa powder, dextrose, any flavours (vanilla essence, or nuts), and milk powder (i've found my chocolate to go lumpy if I add milk powder so I just leave it out and have it as dark chocolate).  Just melt the cocoa butter and slowly add the other ingredients.  I found raw organic cocoa butter in one of my local health food shops and 500g is about $30.  There is heaps of places online to purchase it, even ebay, otherwise you can try yellow pages and ring your local healthfood shops.

  • 22 Jul 2012 11:28 PM
    Reply # 1017012 on 870432
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    ok thanks Janelle. I will investigate when I go to get groceries tommorrow :)
  • 23 Jul 2012 1:31 AM
    Reply # 1017067 on 870432
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    If you're making milk chocolate, it needs to be heated to one temperature, cooled to another, then heated again.  Otherwise it gets those white spots you see on chocolate that's heated until it melts, then cools without being tempered properly.


  • 23 Jul 2012 10:39 PM
    Reply # 1017920 on 870432
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    Ok im just attempting to make some now - I don't have milk powder and its pretty dear so im just doing it how you all said with the cocoa butter, cocoa, dextrose, a splash of vanilla and I added some slivered almonds just to see how it goes.  By the way im not sure about how much cocoa butter to use but the receipe up there said 125g of copha so I substituted that for the cocoa butter - fingers crossed
  • 24 Jul 2012 2:51 AM
    Reply # 1018104 on 870432
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    ok so I made the chocolate with the cocoa butter and its so sickly - I didn't use any milk powder but in my opinion it tastes exactly how it does when you use copha and that is sickly - any other recommendations to nice chocolate without the copha/cocoa butter sickliness?  I love normal milk chocoalte but that was way too much for me :)
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