How Much Sugar?

I have defected to Weight Watchers

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  • 19 Apr 2011 8:22 PM
    Message # 573771

    Hi guys,

    I am here with my hat in hand advising that I have joined Weight Watchers and in three weeks have lost two and a half kilos.  Before denouncing me please read what I have to say.

    Being sugar free for six months and no weight loss was really getting to me, I was doing everything right and getting so frustrated with no results.  Saw that WWs had revamped its programme entirely so decided I would give it a go as over 20 years ago with WWs I lost 25kgs and became a lifetime member and kept it off for years until I was put on HRT tablets and regained 5 kgs almost overnight and I have yo yoed ever since even after I was taken off HRT found it difficult and found myself back at my starting weight.

    Thankyou for all your support.  I have not abandoned the sugar free way of life entirely and still watch the sugar content of everything and make my own icecream etc and am feeling more positive.

    As to the dreadful events here in the Lockyer Valley earlier this year we have a sticker that says it all:- 

     "It was a tough week but *#@! we made it!

    Cheers from Margaret

     

     

     

     

  • 20 Apr 2011 4:59 PM
    Reply # 574296 on 573771
    Good luck Margaret! You will do well!
  • 21 Apr 2011 6:16 PM
    Reply # 575118 on 574296
    Selina Brown wrote: Good luck Margaret! You will do well!


    Good luck Margaret. I do know how you feel I have been off sugar since July with no real positive results. I have changed long term medications as they can also increase weight. but since having the flu 3weeks ago I still have no energy and am bit more sedentary than I normally am and have not gone for walks. Let us know how you go with WW.

    Cheers Marian

  • 25 Apr 2011 10:24 PM
    Reply # 577540 on 573771

    Good Luck Margaret, please let us know how you go. It took courage to do what you've done, but soemtimes we need some extra help. Maybe it was the medication, but I've read a lot of your other entries and I admire how hard you've tried.

    I'm also a life member of Weight Watchers- I lost 18 kg in 1990. After putting on weight in a new (stressful and demanding) job in 2005, I rejoined in 2007, but didn't lose any weight. I had to admit this was because I was eating far too much chocolate and exceeding the WW limits. Eventually I found Sweet Poison. WW was good in 1990 for the portion size, the daily limits and encouraging me to eat widely- I was new to vegetables and fruit and swapping fried stuff for healthier versions. I remember my only sugar was a weekly choc bar- but that kept my sugar addiction alive and well.

    After reading Sweet Poison, I find I lose weight slowly if I stay off sugar. That's my problem- I tend to last 7-10 days only. But I have been reading through more member ideas, and I am going to buy nuts to snack on and walk regularly for mood- instead of eating sugar when feeling stressed. I also need to listen to my fullness indicators- my memory of WW limits and portions will help.

    Dennise

  • 25 Apr 2011 11:07 PM
    Reply # 577565 on 573771

    Margaret,

    Sorry, but I have to add in a theory- I read your March post about not having lost much weight and how you were walking more now your property had dried out more. You have been through a lot of stress with the floods and your health.And I was thinking about the stress I was under when I stacked on a stone (6 kg) in weight in '05 and then another stone trying to lose weight (when eating more choc cos I got stressed). My partner once told me to "do the things that worked when you lost weight before." So what worked before? All the things in my last post, but more than that...

    So now I have a theory- women hold onto weight or gain it when "stressed". That stress may cause us to eat more- sugar, carbs, whatever our "tempatations". I think it is a complex process where we panic due to outside forces, and our bodies respond by building fat stores just in case of the impending famine. What famine? Well, modern stress would be interpreted by our bodies as just "STRESS!!" and what has been the stress on humans for the millenia- we have evolved to deal with famine. Our bodies can't know the difference between financial stress, boss stress, self-esteem stress, etc, and compare it to the fear of not having enough food. It's all "stress."

    One more thing I did when I lost 18kg on WW was believe it was going to work and relax and concentrate on other things like planning what clothes I'd buy at "goal weight." So, I'm just going to try an experiment. Daily: 1. expect that I will have stress every day- no surprises then. 2. Repeat to myself "I can handle this. I will think through my options and take action." Cos, really, I can do something, no matter what happens. 3. Repeat to myself "I'm on an eating plan which works (sugar-free), I'm losing weight." Now, I'm not one for mantras and affirmations. This isn't what this is about. It's belief. Belief in my ability to cope with daily stress so I don't need to eat to make myself feel better. And belief that replacing sugar with healthy food will result in a healthy me, who isn't carrying extra fat- in case of famine. Stopping the panic that is stress.

    Sorry this is long, I'm just thinking this through. -Dennise

  • 27 Apr 2011 1:58 AM
    Reply # 578524 on 573771
    Hi guys again,

    I am so pleased that I have not received any negative feedback, that was what I was worried about, thank you so much for such support.

    I am pleased to tell you that I have lost 4kgs to date which I think is fantastic.  Have a line dancing weekend coming up this weekend at the Urban Country festival so have planned out my meals in advance so it won't be too much of a challenge.  I am still looking at sugar content on everything I eat and feel I have done the right thing.  Thanks again.

    Cheers 
    Margaret


  • 27 Apr 2011 6:14 AM
    Reply # 578612 on 578524
    Margaret Norris wrote: Hi guys again,

    I am so pleased that I have not received any negative feedback, that was what I was worried about, thank you so much for such support.

    I am pleased to tell you that I have lost 4kgs to date which I think is fantastic.  Have a line dancing weekend coming up this weekend at the Urban Country festival so have planned out my meals in advance so it won't be too much of a challenge.  I am still looking at sugar content on everything I eat and feel I have done the right thing.  Thanks again.

    Cheers 
    Margaret


    Hi Margaret

    Not every diet suits everyone or there would not be rows and rows of diet books out there.  I admire you for working on a diet that suits you and using all the knowledge that you have gained.  I lost wieght on WW years ago and it worked but afterwards I could not maintain it due to the cravings (sugar)  I think you may have something by using WW to loose the weight than follow the sugar theory to maintain afterwards.

    Good luck and you never know maybe you can write a diet book to compliment the Quit Plan.  My daughter like yourself has not lost any weight when it was so easy for me but I was a full on adict who could eat half a cheesecake or family block of chocolate in an afternoon.

    Good luck


     

  • 30 Apr 2011 6:57 PM
    Reply # 581432 on 577565
    Dennise F wrote:

    Margaret,

    Sorry, but I have to add in a theory- I read your March post about not having lost much weight and how you were walking more now your property had dried out more. You have been through a lot of stress with the floods and your health.And I was thinking about the stress I was under when I stacked on a stone (6 kg) in weight in '05 and then another stone trying to lose weight (when eating more choc cos I got stressed). My partner once told me to "do the things that worked when you lost weight before." So what worked before? All the things in my last post, but more than that...

    So now I have a theory- women hold onto weight or gain it when "stressed". That stress may cause us to eat more- sugar, carbs, whatever our "tempatations". I think it is a complex process where we panic due to outside forces, and our bodies respond by building fat stores just in case of the impending famine. What famine? Well, modern stress would be interpreted by our bodies as just "STRESS!!" and what has been the stress on humans for the millenia- we have evolved to deal with famine. Our bodies can't know the difference between financial stress, boss stress, self-esteem stress, etc, and compare it to the fear of not having enough food. It's all "stress."

    One more thing I did when I lost 18kg on WW was believe it was going to work and relax and concentrate on other things like planning what clothes I'd buy at "goal weight." So, I'm just going to try an experiment. Daily: 1. expect that I will have stress every day- no surprises then. 2. Repeat to myself "I can handle this. I will think through my options and take action." Cos, really, I can do something, no matter what happens. 3. Repeat to myself "I'm on an eating plan which works (sugar-free), I'm losing weight." Now, I'm not one for mantras and affirmations. This isn't what this is about. It's belief. Belief in my ability to cope with daily stress so I don't need to eat to make myself feel better. And belief that replacing sugar with healthy food will result in a healthy me, who isn't carrying extra fat- in case of famine. Stopping the panic that is stress.

    Sorry this is long, I'm just thinking this through. -Dennise


    Dennis, here is an excerpt from an e-mail I received from a meditation site. Haven't confirmed the research, but it ties in with what you are saying. After I lost my initial weight (6.6 kgs in 4 months), I had to tweak my carbs intake, mainly bread.  By Feb I had put back on 4kgs, but since then I am back to my weight loss, AND MORE. Just got weightd and am the lowest weight since I lost weight in 1991 (got down to 91kg's, met my partner, & ate because I was happy!) (it was more complex, but you get the picture).  I've lost now 8.2 kilos, Yay, but now I have found my appetite control is kicking in, not all the time, but most of it. Yes, I did the Nekked Dance around the bathroom/bedroom, what a sight that must have been!

    Here's the content, sorry no link, it came in an email.

    A study at Brandies University has shown that the highest cortisol levels are found in older adults suffering from money stress.
    Cortisol is the hormone that our body produces under stress. A little cortisol is ok - it helps regulate blood pressure and the immune system during a sudden crisis.
    But when your stress is prolonged, or when you worry excessively over things like money, the cortisol in your body goes into "overdrive" and creates a state of chronic stress.  In other words, when you worry a lot or "stress out", your cortisol levels can increase more than normal.
    According to Prevention magazine:     "Chronically high cortisol levels can cause  sleep problems, a depressed immune response, blood sugar abnormalities, and even abdominal weight gain.   

    When cortisol spikes, it tells the body to eat something with a lot of calories--a great survival tactic if   you need energy to flee a predator but not if you're fretting over how to pay bills," says nutritional  biochemist Shawn Talbott,  PhD, author of The Cortisol Connection."
    Talbott adds, "Over the long term, excessive amounts of this "primary stress hormone" can "kill your sex drive, shrink your brain, squelch your immune system, and generally make you feel terrible."
     

    There's a documented relationship between elevated levels of cortisol, chronic stress, and such health conditions as obesity, depression, suppressed immune system, osteoporosis, and hypertension. In high amounts, Cortisol can even kill brains cells.

    But there are simple ways to reduce your cortisol levels and dissolve worries.

    Here are several ways:
    1. Eat at regular intervals throughout the day: Avoid skipping meals, it creates a release of  cortisol in your brain and body.

    2. Excessive carbohydrate intake creates cortisol release in response to constantly elevated insulin levels. Have complex carbohydrates instead. 

    3. Utilize stress reduction techniques at peak cortisol times: meditation, self-hypnosis, or simply lying on the floor doing belly breathing for 10-15 minutes can help to reduce stress and thus cortisol levels. 

    4. Get to bed on time. Get at least 8 hours of sleep  every night. 

    5. Avoid stimulants: Stay away from energy drinks that contain ephedra-like compounds and caffeine.  Stimulants shift the body into sympathetic dominance, or the "fight or flight" mode. Stimulants can also disrupt your sleeping patterns.

    Obviously it then went on to tell you the benefits of meditation, which I do, but not enough.

    Margaret, I wish you every success. whatever works for you. I always say, everybodies body is different, & what works for you, may not work for me. I did WW in the 80's & lost 17 pounds in 17 weeks, but I had my Ma-in-law cooking for me, she was great. As soon as she went away, I gradually put back on weight, mostly due to stress. My late hubby had a heart attack, then was found to be suffering from angina. He had to eventually give up work, which meant I was then the breadwinner. Stress & more stress. Back then excercise wasn't highlighted enough, like it is now, how I wish I had gone on those long walks with him when we went camping. I used that time as a stress releaser, spending my time reading & relaxing. Now I know if I'd gone walking with him, I wouldn't have put on so much weight, or been as stressed. So I wish you well, keep on posting your results and concerns.

    And remember, keep on spreading the Love
    Silver Angel  (Smile)

    PS  David, where's the emoticons?!!
  • 15 May 2011 7:39 AM
    Reply # 591542 on 573771

    Thanks Silver Angel,

    Not long after I wrote the entry about stress I read the same theory in a magazine and in the book I'm reading on meditation. I think I finally understood stuff I'd read about by applying it to myself.

    Well, two more days sugar free and I will have gone past the 10 day barrier I keep meeting.

    How did you go at the dance, Margaret?

    -Dennise

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  • 16 May 2011 9:49 PM
    Reply # 592778 on 573771
    Hi Dennise, sorry I mis-read your name before!!  I just want to say one thing.
    As a Psychic Healer, your response to my post definitely confirms to me that this 'stuff' (affirmations, mantras etc) was put in front of you to get you to follow through on it. ie don't 'dis' the Spiritual stuff!!  HaHa..
    There's a lot of love around you, wanting to help you for your highest good, all you have to do is spot the 'signs' and follow it all up, ask for help of the 'energy' on the 'other side of the veil' (for wont of a better description) and you will be helped. A sign could be maybe, you are walking past a bookshelf, and a book may fall off the shelf in front of you, now that is a definite sign for you to look at the book, maybe it may only be the title that is pertinent, or the book may have fallen for you to read it, even some part of it....who knows, maybe in that book is the one phrase that is your 'light bulb' moment! 

    Not trying to 'convert' you , wouldn't ever do that, but just explaining things a little, to get you to think more about it all.  A positive attitude never went wrong for anyone, if they are intent on doing/being good.
    Remember, Love makes the world go round. As you go thru' your lifes' journey, try to emanate Love from yourself to others, it will stand you in good stead.  That's all I'm about....
    Good luck with it all, keep us informed about how you're going, so we can continue to motivate you. 

    And, remember, keep on trying to
    Spread the Love

    Silver Angel    Smile
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