David Gillespie - are we over complicating it

18 Jun 2012 7:22 AM

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After doing a lot of research and reading davids books and looking at all the questions and answers on the forums etc i wonder if we are complicating this lifestyle choice and trying to incorpirate all our info and belifes from media and other diets etc. I simply brought the books listened to some online interviews done with David and followed the steps in the quit guide. We got rid of all the products that didnt fit the recommended amount of sugar per 100grams we filled the panytry with low fructose fruit nuts shapes popcorn cheese crackes found a supplier of sour dough bread we have cows for milk and butter and cream we have chickens for eggs we also have a great variety of meat and veges people sometimes simple is so much better as someone who is relatively new to this programme i find the forums confussing and a bit contridictory i have lost over 6 kilos in 3 weeks and continue to only exercise when i want to i dnt feel deprived i dnt feel hungry between meals and i hated the first week just like the book said i refuse to do points count calories etc i simply eat off a small plate and i am happy my treat if any is potato chips so i wonder if some of us need to go back to the basics again and not over analyse this lifestyle too much and not overwhelm the newbies me included to much

19 Jun 2012 1:39 AM

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julie gordon wrote:After doing a lot of research and reading davids books and looking at all the questions and answers on the forums etc i wonder if we are complicating this lifestyle choice and trying to incorpirate all our info and belifes from media and other diets etc. I simply brought the books listened to some online interviews done with David and followed the steps in the quit guide. We got rid of all the products that didnt fit the recommended amount of sugar per 100grams we filled the panytry with low fructose fruit nuts shapes popcorn cheese crackes found a supplier of sour dough bread we have cows for milk and butter and cream we have chickens for eggs we also have a great variety of meat and veges people sometimes simple is so much better as someone who is relatively new to this programme i find the forums confussing and a bit contridictory i have lost over 6 kilos in 3 weeks and continue to only exercise when i want to i dnt feel deprived i dnt feel hungry between meals and i hated the first week just like the book said i refuse to do points count calories etc i simply eat off a small plate and i am happy my treat if any is potato chips so i wonder if some of us need to go back to the basics again and not over analyse this lifestyle too much and not overwhelm the newbies me included to much

I think you're 200% right. A lot of people on this forum are quoting all sorts of other websites and ideas, and while I don't advocate doing what David says blindly, and without thinking about it, I do think that some people are getting tied in knots trying to figure out how to still eat a lot of sweets, or find different types of sugar they can eat, etc. I guess everyone is different, but, I did what you describe, I eat well, I eat until I am full, I just don't eat sugar, and I've lost a ton of weight. But, I also think that it's wrong to look at this as a 'weight loss diet', it's not, it's a way of life to eat sensibly and let your body take care of itself. I was 102 kg and I am 88 now, and while my doctor tells me I should be less, people ask what my target weight is, and I don't have one. If I know I am eating good food and not eating to excess, my body knows better than some imagined ideal I might get from the media what it is I should weigh. There is no way I am going to count calories, or points ( I do like looking at Weight Watchers products in the supermarket and trying to find some without sugar, for a giggle ), or anything like that. That's what I love about cutting out sugar, I don't need to, and I don't need to feed deprived.

19 Jun 2012 6:47 PM

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I think yes and no. Some people what fast quick results, but that will never happen. We've been poisoning our bodies for a lifetime, thus it will take some time for the damage to heal and for the body to start doing what it's supposed to do and we just need to be patient. Also there are other factors in why some of us don't loose weight. Some people eat out of habit, they eat because it's time to eat (like it's 12pm so it's time to have lunch etc) so we are eating when we are not hungry, which means we consume more and put on weight or not loose any. For women, this is a totally different thing, because of hormones and especially that time of month, we put on water weight, which in hindsight seeing the scales go up or stay the same can be daunting. Also I stopped the pill, I read that the hormones find a way of balancing out in the body and I think that may have been a reason for my non weight loss or stall. At the end of the day it's all about the amount we eat, you just need to find your own way to keep yourself satisfied for longer whether it be eating more good fats and protein, or just simply keeping yourself occupied, because eating out of habit for an entire lifetime is the hardest thing to break.

20 Jun 2012 1:59 AM

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I would agree that eating out of habit can be hard to break, but I'm lucky, I lost 10 kg in the first month and 4 kg since then ( two months in, I am stuck at 88 kg, which is still 'mildly overweight' according to my doctor, my ideal weight is 66-84 kg, but I can't imagine being alive at 66 kg ).

20 Jun 2012 11:53 PM

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I agree with you all. I am only new to this but David sets out clearly what is on the list and what is not. He even gives an example of his daily intake of food on page 152 of The sweet poison quit plan. Treats are for Birthdays and the odd special occasion. After reading all three of Davids books all vegetable oils and seed oils should be off the list as well. It concerns me that many members are buying pies, pizza, potato chips and hot chips as part of thier diet. we can have these but need to make our own e.g. pizza base using the basic scone recipe from the quit plan. The only oil David recommened was extra virgin olive oil. I was excited about joining this site as a member to share new info. and support from like minded people.

Bev :)

21 Jun 2012 12:25 AM

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Hi Bev

I agree with the rationale to avoid oils ( although olive is not the only OK oil, avocado is certainly OK ), but, given that those oils are not addictive, and are in many ways harder to avoid, I bet a lot of people are not as fastidious with that aspect of the plan. Personally, I've tried to avoid them for a long time, but I accept that a little is going to get in to my diet, although I try as hard as I can to avoid it.