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Weightwatches debunks myth about sugar in diet

  • 01 Nov 2010 4:43 AM
    Message # 454563
    Deleted user

    Hi everyone. Has anyone seen the latest posting from Weightwatches. I tried amongst other diets, Weightwatches and am still getting their emails, haven't got around to cancelling, and this came throught today. None of the various diets worked for me including Weightwatches and while loss has been slow on David's new way of eating I am not worried as I feel so much better and for the first time have lost that awful craving of always feeling unsatisfied and continually picking and nibling. I don't feel deprived at all and get the feel full feeling, particularly at lunchtime. So intend staying with it despite cynicism from some I know who are trying to diet on other lowcarb/package diets etc. I started on this new regime in May and had a few ups & downs to start with but now am more organised. I am 68 and was told once that it is harder to lose weight when in senior years, so is that some of the cause for some of us going slow on this regime or maybe that is just a myth too. The Weigthwatchers diet did little for me and was a lot of work getting meals organised and was expensive. This way of eating has been very cost effective. Below is what they have posted.

    Lyn

    Diet myths debunked
    Despite all we know about sound nutrition, myths lurk everywhere - get the facts right
     
    MYTH: Sugar is fattening.
    FACT:
    There's little scientific evidence that a high-sugar diet leads to obesity. Not that you'd want to (since sugar doesn't provide any of the vitamins and minerals needed for good health), but you could consume 8400 kilojoules worth of sugar a day and not gain weight - if your body requires 8400 kilojoules a day to maintain your current weight, says Columbia University nutrition professor Dr Audrey Cross. Sugar is pure carbohydrate. Your body processes it the same way it does any carb, including bread and fruit. Of course, many sugary favourites, such as doughnuts, are not the best choice not just because of all the sugar, but also the fat. Fresh fruit, at just 1 to 2 POINTS® values per serving, is your best bet if you have a sweet tooth.
     

     

     

  • 01 Nov 2010 6:43 AM
    Reply # 454572 on 454563
    Deleted user
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi everyone. Has anyone seen the latest posting from Weightwatches. I tried amongst other diets, Weightwatches and am still getting their emails, haven't got around to cancelling, and this came throught today. None of the various diets worked for me including Weightwatches and while loss has been slow on David's new way of eating I am not worried as I feel so much better and for the first time have lost that awful craving of always feeling unsatisfied and continually picking and nibling. I don't feel deprived at all and get the feel full feeling, particularly at lunchtime. So intend staying with it despite cynicism from some I know who are trying to diet on other lowcarb/package diets etc. I started on this new regime in May and had a few ups & downs to start with but now am more organised. I am 68 and was told once that it is harder to lose weight when in senior years, so is that some of the cause for some of us going slow on this regime or maybe that is just a myth too. The Weigthwatchers diet did little for me and was a lot of work getting meals organised and was expensive. This way of eating has been very cost effective. Below is what they have posted.

    Lyn

    Diet myths debunked
    Despite all we know about sound nutrition, myths lurk everywhere - get the facts right
     
    MYTH: Sugar is fattening.
    FACT:
    There's little scientific evidence that a high-sugar diet leads to obesity. Not that you'd want to (since sugar doesn't provide any of the vitamins and minerals needed for good health), but you could consume 8400 kilojoules worth of sugar a day and not gain weight - if your body requires 8400 kilojoules a day to maintain your current weight, says Columbia University nutrition professor Dr Audrey Cross. Sugar is pure carbohydrate. Your body processes it the same way it does any carb, including bread and fruit. Of course, many sugary favourites, such as doughnuts, are not the best choice not just because of all the sugar, but also the fat. Fresh fruit, at just 1 to 2 POINTS® values per serving, is your best bet if you have a sweet tooth.
     

     

     


    Hi Lyn

    Like you I did weightwatcher and I was successful but couldn't maintain the work and yes it is expensive.  They use the mental guilt of weighting in each week and you don't want to be bad in front of others to achieve your goal.  But as you said it is $13 of week to sit at listen to things we already know. 

    I love their use of the Professor from Columbia's comment - you could consume 8400 kilojoules worth of sugar a day and not gain wieght - if your body requires 8400 kilojoules a day to maintain you current weight.  Isn't that true for any food.  If what goes in is the same as what goes out you maintain your current weight.  I would love to see what the whole articly he wrote was and what it really meant.  Also they forget that we live for more than one day. 

    We are changing our lives long term and winning.  Best $30 I ever spent.

  • 01 Nov 2010 4:43 PM
    Reply # 454936 on 454563
    Deleted user

    Hi Jan & Lyn

    Come on now, ladies...  You can't expect WeightWatchers to jump too hard on sugar - their products are full of it! (lol!)

    WW used to be my arch nemesis when I was working in a gym with young mums trying to lose weight. Their dietary advice was either crude, outdated or wrong. Seeing the young mums in tears used to make my blood boil. Grrr!

    Donna ;-)

  • 02 Nov 2010 2:56 AM
    Reply # 455279 on 454563
    Anonymous

    its interesting that the US version of this mythbusting campaign had four myths rather than the three in the Australian version ... http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/art/index_art.aspx?tabnum=1&art_id=17931

    The one that Australians didn't need to know about was "MYTH: Eating at night leads to weight gain.  " ... I wonder why that is?

    The "Professor" quoted in the email is Dr Audrey Cross http://www.draudreycross.com/ ... she has long since retired from Columbia University and now does advertisements for Subway (among other things).

    The only other public statement I can find from her about sugar seems a little misguided http://www.womansday.com/Articles/Food/Is-Sugar-Really-Addictive.html but certainly doesn't seem to have quite the spin that WW gives her comments (that sugar doesn't make you fat).

    Its interesting that WW feel its necessary to put out an email like this ...

    Cheers

    David.

     

  • 15 Nov 2010 8:05 PM
    Reply # 463732 on 454563
    Deleted user

    Hello Lyn,

    Just a few lines re WWs.  I became a Lifetime member many many years ago and kept the weight off for a long time but found as I aged (am 67) it tended to creep back on and I have been unable to stem the tide after many attempts to return to WWs, I loved the programme when I was doing it but as you said it was expensive.

    Have been on David's new way of eating for about 14 weeks with no results other than gaining a few kgs much to my horror but having said that I do feel so much better and wake up more refreshed.  Had a bit of a spaz out these last few days because I was so disappointed, eating icecream and snowballs which found me visiting the smallest room in the house more frequently than usual, am over it now and am pushing on, have to get some results soon surely?  I am finding I don't seem to know when I am full, does anyone else have this problem, maybe I am just a glutton.

    Anyway getting back to WWs, I can't see how they could possibly say sugar isn't fattening and I for one won't take any notice of that at all.

    Sorry all for my moaning, I'll keep on.

    Cheers Margaret

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • 17 Nov 2010 4:21 PM
    Reply # 464918 on 454563
    Deleted user

    Oh, Margaret. I wish I could help you somehow. You sound so down about your weight!

    I noticed you mentioned having trouble recognizing when you're full.  Just last Monday I did a presentation on exactly that subject. Here are the main points.

    The "I'm satisfied" signal is not the same as the "I'm full" signal. The first is a chemical signal from your gut to your brain that signals that you've eaten enough to meet your needs. The second is a physical signal that your stomach is filled to capacity. If your stomach is full then you've already eaten too much.

    The "I'm satisfied" signal is very subtle - a quiet voice in a storm. It takes a bit of practice to hear it. The best way I can describe it is this. Imagine eating your absolute favourite food. When you start eating it you are in heaven. It's divine, luscious, delicious. This lasts about 4 or 5 mouthfuls. Then its really yummy. A few more mouthfuls and it's just OK but you're going to finish it anyway because, after all, this IS your favourite food and you're not quite full yet.

    The VERY FIRST mouthful thats not really yummy is your "I'm satisfied" signal.  STOP NOW!

    I hope I've explained this adequately.

    Regards, Donna

     

     

  • 17 Nov 2010 10:54 PM
    Reply # 465151 on 454563
    Deleted user

    Thanks Donna, you really are so helpful and I have taken it all on board and will try your suggestions next meal, know what you are saying about the first few mouthfulls etc then by the end just eating because it is there, have started using a smaller plate which seems to help.

    Got some peanuts out last night to munch on whilst reading and poured out my usual amount only to return half because I really didn't want them so maybe the tide is turning.

    Thanks for your encouragement.

    Margaret

     

     

     

  • 19 Nov 2010 5:31 PM
    Reply # 466447 on 454563
    Deleted user

    Great to hear that yout tide may be turning, Margaret.

    Stay positive :-)

    Donna

  • 22 Nov 2010 3:31 PM
    Reply # 467842 on 454563
    Deleted user
    I'm also a several-times WW failure :) Gee if I counted up all the money I spent over the years to lose weight, I'd be horrified I'm sure! Yep, their products are full of sugar so they have to defend their position. Also, their programs are really about the too many calories = fat thing, they've only really repackaged the same old thing for years. If they were to educate their customers about the real cause, they'd soon run out of customers - LOL - I'd pay to see that :D
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