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  • 24 Oct 2011 3:36 AM
    Message # 730694
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    I recently bought the SP quit plan after seeing David on Sunrise..  much of what he was saying started to resonate with me after my battle with gestational diabetes in my second pregnancy (thank goodness I won that battle, my bub was unaffected and I lost 10kgs in the process)..  however it was a good chance for me to work out what my blood sugar levels would react too and what they wouldn;t..  I had nurses telling me low fat this and diet that and every time I would have a blood sugar spike, yet if I ate a protein based sugar free meal no problems..  so I threw away all diet everything and eat as close to earth as possible (unprocessed everything).. and maintain healthy BS levels for the rest of my pregnancy..

    Of course now I am still holding onto 15kgs I don't need and fallen back into old habits.. other than the weight issues I am frightened by the damage I am doing to myself every day by eating sugar based foods.. hence why the clean out last week and I have gone cold turkey..  day 4 and I feel good just hungry all the time.. have made sure lots of sugar free options at my finger tips..

    The problem I have is that I am having to do this by myself... my husband (a naturally slim and fit athlete) thinks that I just have to exercise more and it will all go away..  and wont give up his sugar treats.. and if I mention the risks to our health his eye's glaze over..  and of course he thinks this is just another one of my great plans to lose weight which will never happen (because of course like so many people on this forum I have tried every diet under the sun just to discover dieting does not actually work)..

    If anyone has any tips on managing their way through cold turkey phase on your own and navigating the pitfalls of an unsupportive partner I would love to hear them!!

    Leanne:)



  • 24 Oct 2011 6:43 PM
    Reply # 732152 on 730694
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    My hubby is quite like yours in some ways, basically he is naturally slim and is one of those that can eat what ever he likes.  Although he has never been a sugar person, and won't touch sweets.  He just doesn't like them, on occasions he has an ice cream or something but I think for him it's more the hidden sugar in the savoury foods.  I am the main shopper and cooker so savoury food wise it's all low sugar, and I haven't heard him or the kids complain yet :). 

    My kids are turning 5 soon and 3.  I've started teaching my daughter about good and bad foods because her day care is teaching them about healthy eating and healthy foods and I think she is being misinformed.  I can gladly say it's doing well and she is even telling me the sorts of foods that are bad and to throw them away!  Her eating and overall attitude I think has greatly improved and she has much more energy.

    Was it hard to do it alone.  Yes it was I guess  It does take a little willpower, but when you think of it temptations are everywhere you go.  So day 1 I cleaned out the pantry and gave my food to other sugar eaters including what I thought was good treats for the kids.  I do a lot of baking so right from the word go I started cooking with dextrose.  Kids didn't even notice the difference and they actually liked all the cakes I've been making.

    I know David says not to have dextrose until you've finished withdrawal.  One of the main reasons is that you can overeat and hence put on weight.  I did consume a little dextrose treats after a few weeks.  My main weakness was the sweet dessert after dinner.  During the day I never had a problem.  So I started having like whipped cream with vanilla and a couple of strawberries.  Or maybe one of the chocolate brownies from the book.  After a while I just stopped having it because I just really wasn't enjoying it anymore.  I don't get any sweet cravings or have the urge to have anything sweet anymore.

    It may take a little willpower, but you can do it, it's not that hard.  After you get past withdrawals then you should be fine.  Stick with it, the benefits are good.  I've been doing this for a year now and although my hubby was a little sceptical at first, he is now supporting me 100% because he can see the changes, I'm feeling better and looking better.

  • 26 Oct 2011 12:37 AM
    Reply # 733403 on 730694
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    Thank you for the encouragement and pointers:)  Your right I do all the cooking so I might as well make the changes for hubby too and we will see if he notices.. too bad I can;t do anything about the junk he eats during the day!!

    And lucky my kids are only 3 and 9 months so I have not really introduced them to sugar yet except in the form of yogurt and homemade custard which I don;t think they will notice if I change the recipe on them now.. 

    I have not been going too bad other than a mild headache thats hanging around..  and I don;t seem to be fighting the urge for sweet stuff (yet?).. although I used to be a dessert eater too so thats weird.. 

    I think my hubby is going to be like yours and need to see the results before he will support the changes.. (the ones he knows about anyway:)..

    Thanks again and congrats on 1 year sugar free!!!
  • 26 Oct 2011 10:19 PM
    Reply # 734142 on 730694
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    Hi, You mentioned that you feel you have to do this by yourself. At the end of the day I find that we have to create our own path for whatever in life. I found that by just focusing on my own condition and doing what was necessary was the way to go. Also I found that you can try to convince some else till you are blue in the face, but the only way you convince anyone is to be role model with your own beliefs. If you want to be healthy, behave like you are healthy and you will be healthy........It is only so much about the food, it is more about how we think of ourselves and what we want to achieve. I was 130kg and everyday I just believed in what I was trying to achieve and that was to just be fit and healthy and that is where I am today a new person and I am 57 now and it has changed my life. Just the thought process is so powerful. You are the only person who will hold yourself back, it is not about will power it is about this is what I want to achieve, so I am going to plan for myself the best way of doing this and with what knowledge I can find along the way that suits me in my environment......then go from there. When I would have a bad feelings day, I would say to myself .....this day could be better but tomorrow is a new day when I wake up and so forth..........you are the most important person in your life and the work you achieve for yourself will help you help your children, husband and any others who will finally look at your achievement in a different way. Just live in every 24 hour block, because that is what you are in at the moment......this 24 hours......that is what you focus on.
  • 27 Oct 2011 6:23 PM
    Reply # 735085 on 730694
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    Wow, Judy, what great advice!! I have printed it out to remind me, so that every day I am trying to change my self-talk from negative to positive, I will hear this advice in my head, which is something I already knew, but sometimes it needs for one to see/hear it said in a different way for it to 'click' and really have an impact. This has done that for me, Judy, so thanks for that.
    Anna-Louise, I think that you are learning every day how to do things in a quiet way for the good of your family, and I think, like Janelle's DH, yours will see the changes in you, and laud you for your determination.
    My DB (dearly beloved) is a 'feeder', and I am sometimes weak (!) falling somewhat distractedly into acceptance , using old outdated habits. If I'm hungry enough, or watching TV, I will accept the 'bad stuff' then after a few moments, realise what I'm doing then berate myself for being weak.  If anyone has any ideas on what to say to him (kindly, of course) to stop his 'sabotaging' behaviour, I'm all ears!!  lol......

    Janelle, you know I am your No. 1 fan, great advice, too. I've been a little indulgent recently, (bread, mainly) so my weight is fluctuating 2 kilos either way. I need that exercise, planned date, next Friday, to re-start my weight loss again.

    Discussion point: what does everyone think about our weight being in kilos now, instead of stones, pounds & ounces?  I know that in the old scale, I should be around 8 and a half stone, for my height. But I've no idea what it should be in kilos, and really, I don't think I want to know, as I've already lost 17 kilos, and know I've got another 20 to go for my long term goal. But that won't get me anywhere near 8 and a half stone. All that does is depress me. I see people on telly who have started around the same weight I was, and have lost more than me, and I think, but you till have so much more to go. I know this is a way of life, and it will come off slowly, but it can be disheartening when one is stuck.  I think I would rather see my weight as stones and pounds again, what do you people think? (Those that remember, of course, lol....)

    Good luck in your journey, Anna-Louise, look forward to watching your progress. It's now been 14 months since I first read the book.  WooHoo....

    Bye

    Silver Angel  aka Sylvia

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  • 27 Oct 2011 8:16 PM
    Reply # 735177 on 730694
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    Hi, regarding your discussion point. I find that everyone tackles the weight issues differently, when I was 130kg I promised myself I was not going to look at the scales again until my clothes indicated that I had lost weight. As I have mentioned before it is all about focusing on you and your thoughts not numbers on a scale. I weighed myself the first day, the next time I weighed myself was 2.5 years later and I was 82.9kg. Every day I said to myself, just eat, breathe, exercise and be healthy, that is all I focussed on. Just get back to the basics of life as it should be.  I believe every time we look at scales, it is measuring our failures, our triumphs etc. It is like peer group pressure in a way. Love you for who you are, and what you are helping yourself achieve and just move on with the day. Just live in your 24 hours and enjoy it for what it is. As time goes by, behind the scene your clothes start to get loose, your body will feel better. The only reason these things won't happen is because you are not helping your body, you are hindering it with either unhealthy food, no exercise or believing that you aren't the special person who you are!!!

    Just keep believing in what you are achieving for yourself.....

  • 27 Oct 2011 9:42 PM
    Reply # 735295 on 730694
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    Thanks, Judy, great advice. am willing to try this, so thanks for reminding me.

    Sylvia

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    Has anyone noticed the date is wrong on the forum. My computer says it's the 28th, but the forum is saying it's the 27th!!
  • 08 Nov 2011 3:54 AM
    Reply # 744941 on 730694
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    After a very emotionally stressful week I have looked back on some of the comments posted here and I have been thankful the reminder that this journey is about me and only I can be the one to tackle every aspect of my life day to day not just about the weight issues and living FF..

    I have to learn to put me first on the list more as without that I wont be going anywhere fast.. and then I wont be useful to my kids, husband or myself...

    I must say I was very good during this period where eating could have easily been may way of coping however after one serving of sugar filled custard I ended up with a blinding headache half an hour later so admitted that I could not deal with physical illness on top of everything else...

    Thank you to all those who offer words of wisdom and experience... you never know how they can touch someone else when they least expect it or realise they need it... x
  • 08 Nov 2011 5:42 PM
    Reply # 745427 on 730694
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    Don't worry leanne, we all have our share of stressful weeks! Previously I would have something sweet as well, especially if I was feeling down.  Instead I take a little time out, have a nice bath with a glass of wine.  Or you can keep some treats in the freezer handy, chocolate cake freezes well, but what's even better for those horrible days... chocolate cake, David's chocolate sauce from the quit plan book and a dollop of whipped cream.  Try this the next time you have a bad day!
  • 09 Nov 2011 5:18 AM
    Reply # 745783 on 730694
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    Hi Leanne, Have just come back from holidays and found your conversations.  Can I just say in a nutshell, "Always paddle your own canoe" and don't expect any help from anyone when you go out on a limb. My husband is a diabetic and he totally ignores all advise and sugar free - diet schedules. and eats what he likes.  I have given up on trying to help him eat well.  I recently had a fasting glucose  done and it showed I  was a borderline diabetic. This is really odd because diabeties is not in my family.  I do not like or eat takeaways or fizzy sugary drinks, (never have) and I am thin and exerecise. I have access to a Blood glucometer and started measuring my blood sugars.  I found my BGL was ok if I stayed completly off sugar in anything I ate.  I get no support from my husband so I don't even discuss the matter with him, and as I am a pretty determined person, I just went cold turkey.  I lost 9 kilos in 2 months. I am now 61.5 kilo and have stableised apparently. I also found carbs affect my BGL and I tryto keep to 50g or less per main meal. In a nutshell, determine to go it alone and you will do better than waiting for approval from those around you. Stick to it, don't over obsess and it will be ok. I also found that the diets given to diabetics in hospitals and nursing homes are appaling, they seem to think the old diabetic diets were too rigid or something and they have a faulty understanding of fructose so there is no one who really knows, except yourself and what works for you. Get a Blood glucometer and keep an eye on what you can eat and then you will know.  Use it for a while until you get to know your own metabolism then lock it away or you will worry about your sugar levels too much.    
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