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Dairy fat levels

  • 06 Feb 2013 1:59 AM
    Message # 1200259
    Deleted user

    Just wondering if it's OK to use dairy products that have either low fat or reduced fat, along with low sugar. Or, is the need to have full fat to do with switching on appetite triggers and completely necessary. 

     For example,

    • Chobani greek yoghurt plain fat free has: 0.1 fat and 3.1 sugars
    • Chobani greek yoghurt plain low fat has: 1.7 fat and 2.7 sugars

    Also, regarding high low milks and lite milks, eg

    • Coles lite milk is 98%fat free and 5.3 sugars

    Thanks 

  • 06 Feb 2013 6:34 PM
    Reply # 1201066 on 1200259
    Deleted user
    yes it does need to be full fat, basically because the fat helps fill you up.  If the product doesn't contain any added sugar it should be fine.  Some people don't like full fat stuff and that is fine, it does take a while to get used to it especially if you haven't had it for quite some time and others it may not agree with and feel sick after eating something with too much fat. I believe David does mention in his book that as long as it doesn't have any added fat it's your choice to have something low fat.  Take this for example, could you drink 2 cups of full cream milk compared to 2 cups of skim milk, probably not the full cream milk would fill you up more (also providing you like the taste of skim milk lol).
  • 06 Feb 2013 9:58 PM
    Reply # 1201182 on 1200259
    Deleted user
    Thanks Janelle. I haven't had full fat for years, and it tastes so different.  Am I correct in thinking that without the sugar, high fat shouldn't increase cholesterol levels.  My total's high, but with good HDL and hence a very good ratio. 
  • 09 Feb 2013 6:37 PM
    Reply # 1203674 on 1200259
    Anonymous
    In relation to yoghurt  I don't think it matters whether it is full cream or not. The only significant thing is the sugar content. It is safe up to 4.7% "sugars" because that is milk  sugar [ lactose ] which metabolizes as glucose. A lot of the flavoured yoghurts contain much more. But anything under 7% "sugars" should be OK.

    As far as I can tell, be reading labels and in the Food Standards Australia web site * there is very little sugar in unflavoured dairy products other than lactose.

    JohnN

  • 10 Feb 2013 6:49 PM
    Reply # 1204204 on 1200259
    Deleted user
    I believe that is correct.  If you cut out all sugar in your diet and keep your fructose to a minmum your cholesterol leves shouldn't rise, may want to check this in the book.  Any natural yoghurt is fine, I prefer greek yoghurt to normal yoghurt it's less tart and more creamy!  If you need flavour add it yourself, a splash of vanilla in greek yoghurt is great.  If it's still to tart for you add your own sweetener.
  • 11 Feb 2013 12:51 AM
    Reply # 1204364 on 1200259
    Anonymous
    Some yoghurts are loaded with sugar, usually from fruit or added.
    We found a very nice Greek one in WW . . .  Black Swan Greek Yoghurt. The lactose has been modified somehow to make it sweeter. It only comes in 500g pottles.

    JohnN
  • 11 Feb 2013 4:55 AM
    Reply # 1204456 on 1200259
    Deleted user
    Hi John I totally agree with you about the Black Swan Greek Yoghurt from W/W. I am still to convince my Husband how good it is lol.
  • 12 Feb 2013 1:08 AM
    Reply # 1206414 on 1200259

    I recently had a taste of the Black Swan Greek style breakfast yoghurt, and it WAS delicious.  On the label the ingredients include inulin, which is why it is sweet.  However, in Sweet Poison Quit Plan, David has much to say about inulin, including these words:

    "I’m not convinced that we know enough about inulin, wheat dextrin and polydextrose to be certain that their effect on our bodies is not just as bad as pure fructose. I’ll be avoiding foods that contain them and I suggest that all recovering sugarholics do the same."

  • 13 Feb 2013 1:25 AM
    Reply # 1207364 on 1200259
    Deleted user

    Thanks for all your info folks.  I think Chobani Greek yoghurt in either no fat or low fat is a great option.  It's delicious and creamy, 0%sugar, if you take off the 4.7, and is available at WW.  Have checked labels carefully and there's nothing added. 

  • 14 Feb 2013 1:41 AM
    Reply # 1208441 on 1204456
    Anonymous
    Pat BAKER wrote:Hi John I totally agree with you about the Black Swan Greek Yoghurt from W/W. I am still to convince my Husband how good it is lol.
    If you stop trying to convince him he may come around. He sure won't while he thinks he is being sold a bill of "goods" [aka something which is 'good for' him]  :-)

    JohnN
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