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  • 25 Feb 2013 8:00 PM
    Message # 1226247
    Deleted user
    Hi guys :)
    I have successfully been off sugar since January 1st 2013 - 8 weeks today. I know it's a great thing for me and I really believe in the program.
    However, I have gained weight. I lost 1.5 in the first week but have slowly steadily put on since then. Weighed 70kg on 1/1/13 - now weigh 72kg.
    I have been absolutely strictly sticking to no fructose. But I went from a diet of hardly eating carbs to re-introducing them - all sugar free of course, but Burgen Rye bread, pasta & rice have been back in my life after getting the thumbs-up from the Sweet poison plan. I had a 'low fat' approach before, now butter has found its way onto my bread - although I do try to use olive oil instead. And cheese is back too!
    My desire to nibble is still there unfortunately - I choose sakata plain & cream cheese or fruit or a free range chicken piece. I have noticed a definite sensation of fullness which unfortunately tends to come in too late.
    Of course I realize that just because those things are back on the menu, I shouldn't eat unlimited amounts, so I don't... but I haven't counted calories and portions like I used to.  I'm still doing the exercise regularly.
    I know cutting sugar is very good for me, and I intend to stick to it. I just wasn't anticipating weight gain

    Any tips or advise that anyone can give me would be very much appreciated!!
    Last modified: 25 Feb 2013 8:02 PM | Deleted user
  • 26 Feb 2013 12:41 AM
    Reply # 1226379 on 1226247
    Deleted user
    Elizabeth Morris wrote:Hi guys :)
    I have successfully been off sugar since January 1st 2013 - 8 weeks today. I know it's a great thing for me and I really believe in the program.
    However, I have gained weight. I lost 1.5 in the first week but have slowly steadily put on since then. Weighed 70kg on 1/1/13 - now weigh 72kg.
    I have been absolutely strictly sticking to no fructose. But I went from a diet of hardly eating carbs to re-introducing them - all sugar free of course, but Burgen Rye bread, pasta & rice have been back in my life after getting the thumbs-up from the Sweet poison plan. I had a 'low fat' approach before, now butter has found its way onto my bread - although I do try to use olive oil instead. And cheese is back too!
    My desire to nibble is still there unfortunately - I choose sakata plain & cream cheese or fruit or a free range chicken piece. I have noticed a definite sensation of fullness which unfortunately tends to come in too late.
    Of course I realize that just because those things are back on the menu, I shouldn't eat unlimited amounts, so I don't... but I haven't counted calories and portions like I used to.  I'm still doing the exercise regularly.
    I know cutting sugar is very good for me, and I intend to stick to it. I just wasn't anticipating weight gain

    Any tips or advise that anyone can give me would be very much appreciated!!

    Hello Elizabeth and welcome
    And well done on cutting out sugar.
    It took me a long time to gain appetite control............months actually, it's completely different for everyone.
    So, what I did was to keep the carbs very low and make sure I ate a high fat diet..........Bacon, mushrooms and eggs for breakfast.........filled me up so much that I didn't feel hungry again until about 3.00pm when I had a handful of nuts for a snack and a huge mug of unsweetened cocoa with full cream milk which took me through to dinner time.
    Because it does take 20 mins for the stomach to feel full, at dinner, I tended to have a quite big piece of meat or fish, the meat with fat which I ate some of, and vegetables, no potato or rice or pasta. I ate what I felt was a full meal and waited and usually, had judged it right.

    The high fat diet fills you up very quickly and keeps you feeling full for far longer than carbs, in my opinion.
    Others will tell you differently. but this is how I coped ..............I have been going for just over two years now and my body has lost the weight it needed to and has stopped now. I am 71 years old and I think the reason why it took me so long to settle down, is my age............my daughter, who is 34, has been sugar free for about the same time as you and has already noticed her appetite control kicking in.
    But, you will find with a high protein and fat diet, you will be amazed how quickly you feel full.
    Good luck with this, it's a lot of trial and error.
    cheers
    Freda
  • 26 Feb 2013 2:26 AM
    Reply # 1226414 on 1226247
    Anonymous
    I think you are on the right track. David suggests going low-carb if you experience unexpected weight gain [or, presumably lack of loss]. I guess you are reading labels to ensure that you aren't ingesting hidden sugars. Have you done a one-week detailed inventory of what you eat and it's fructose content? If not it may be surprising.

    I am involved in a personal growth program called The Sedona Method. [ www.sedona.com ]. To control addiction or obsessive behaviour, they recommend asking yourself, at the point when you "want" whatever it is, what am I feeling right now?  When you identify the feeling, welcome it into awareness, and then  JUST LET IT GO, set it free as best you can. Keep repeating the process until you are no longer tempted.That way you can have the desired feeling without the associated guilt or physical consequences.

    And don't give up!!
    Good luck.

    JohnN
  • 26 Feb 2013 9:03 PM
    Reply # 1228453 on 1226247
    Deleted user
    Freda & John,  you wonderful people! 
    Thank you both for your wisdom. It was just the gentle guidance that I needed. 
    Feeling the love! OK! Back on track.
    Have a fantastic week!
  • 10 Mar 2013 5:52 PM
    Reply # 1239084 on 1226247
    Deleted user
    Hi Elizabeth, how is it going.  I started just over a week ago and had a great weight loss, now the weight has started to go up again, I think I have been letting the sugar slip in slightly possibly with some carbs so will be counting the sugar to keep this under control.  I have read on other posts that people have struggled to lose weight, I understand that they say they feel better off the sugar but I really need to lose weight and that is why I am trying David's plan.  Can you let me know if you have turned things around and losing weight

    Diane
  • 10 Mar 2013 8:41 PM
    Reply # 1239175 on 1239084
    Deleted user
    Diane Pastro wrote:Hi Elizabeth, how is it going.  I started just over a week ago and had a great weight loss, now the weight has started to go up again, I think I have been letting the sugar slip in slightly possibly with some carbs so will be counting the sugar to keep this under control.  I have read on other posts that people have struggled to lose weight, I understand that they say they feel better off the sugar but I really need to lose weight and that is why I am trying David's plan.  Can you let me know if you have turned things around and losing weight

    Diane

    Hi Diane

    Great to hear you're trying the sugar free lifestyle. Like you, I lost in my first week and then started to slowly gain. Its been 70 days since I gave up fructose and I must admit I thought it would be different. I pictured the weight falling off me, due to the way I used sugar as a comfort food. I figured it would be the magic answer for my weight loss hopes. But although the sugar was gone, the stresses of life were still there. So even though I wasn't reaching for the sugar, I was still reaching out for food. And no matter how healthy my food choices, I was still eating too much.

    The way I understand it, weight loss is all about tipping that energy balance. Less energy in = weight loss. And I simply wasn't doing that. I attribute that to the increased carbohydrate I was taking in. Hmm, here I am speaking in past tense. Until yesterday, my carb intake was still high. Beautiful fresh whole grain bread, brown rice, pasta, plain sakata crackers, etc. All on David's 'OK to eat' list but high carb none-the-less.

    If insulin resistance is a factor, apparently too much glucose would not be good at all and could tip someone into type 2 diabetes. I haven't been diagnosed insulin resistant or pre-diabetic but at age 40, with my history of sugar abuse, it's a possibility.

    As of this morning, I am going low carb. Not 'no carb' as I know that carbohydrates have their role in the health of the human body. But I'm cutting out bread, pasta, crackers, and wheat and rice products in general. Keeping the sweet potato, fresh sweet corn, rolled oats etc.
    Sadly, all those lovely glucose recipes of David & Lizzie's are now off my menu too. For now ;)

    SO... Day 70 no fructose, Day 1 low carb. I will keep you in the loop Diane, to let you know how its going for me.

    Have a great week!

  • 11 Mar 2013 4:51 PM
    Reply # 1239916 on 1226247
    Deleted user
    Hi

    I found when I stopped losing weight during the early days that for a couple of days if I halved my meal size for dinner, and went a bit hungry just for those days that it triggered my continuation of weight loss and my appetite control kicked in more.

    I got onto David's book because my wife was diagnosed as pre diabetic with insulin resistance.  We are both sugar free and have both lost over 13kg in 8 months.  We have spells where we don't lose weight, the biggest cause of that has been parties and drinking alcohol.  Robert Lustig's video talks about how the body converts alcohol to fat in the same way it converts fructose to fat.  David just tells us that we can still drink dry wines and beer but that is because it does not affect our sugar addiction - his book is about cutting our sugar addiction, weight lose is a side effect because most of us overeat.

    Good luck
  • 11 Mar 2013 5:26 PM
    Reply # 1239932 on 1226247
    Deleted user
    Thanks Elizabeth and Gary.  I know it is early days yet but it is frustrating that the weight is not dropping as I had expected but I will continue with the program and hope for the best.  My portion sizes are not large, my biggest problem was constant grazing and particularly with sugar laden foods.  I am now eating some cheese which is something I never/very rarely ate  I am not grazing as I was before.  David's book does state "How to quit the sugar habit and lose weight" so I guess I thought I had found my miracle cure.  I am not planning on giving up and will monitor my carbs more closely.  I will let you know how things go  
    Diane
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