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  • 29 Apr 2011 8:39 AM
    Message # 580237
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    What is worrying me is this.
    The first three months of sugar free has been fine, hardly any withdrawal symptoms, losing weight easily.
    Now, it has hit me..........I have got to the weight I am happy with. Although my BMI for my height should be a lower weight than I have actually achieved, at nearly 70 years of age, I look and feel really good. So I don't care about the "correct" BMI anyway.
    But........the withdrawals have hit me now. After all this time. I find I am craving sweets. I dip my fingers into Dextrose and eat the Dextrose shortbread biscuits I made for my husband. I have started to feel eating is no fun any more.
    I realise this is all withdrawal stuff.
    But why now? Why after all this time?
    I know that one clue is that whenever I finished a diet previously, before pre sugar free days, I immediately went back to "normal" eating.........boomeranging back to stuffing my face and putting all the weight back on even more quickly, plus some. So it may be I have simply reached this point again.
    One thing in my favour, though, is that I am not actually craving fructose, I'm just dipping my finger into glucose and not for long either.
    I am hoping that this will pass. That I will get through it instead of falling back into fructose consumption again.
    And I must admit, it does feel different, as if not having fructose for three months has strengthened me in some way. I seem to be just wanting something sweet now and then.

    Has anyone had this experience and got through it ok..........would you please share your thoughts on this with me.
    cheers
    Freda
  • 30 Apr 2011 12:29 AM
    Reply # 580986 on 580237
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    That is very interesting Freda. And good you're not craving something bad for you.

    Are you using more energy now than you were before the cravings started? I wonder if you're actually needing more energy than you have been consuming??
  • 30 Apr 2011 5:21 AM
    Reply # 581202 on 580986
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    Bron W wrote: That is very interesting Freda. And good you're not craving something bad for you.

    Are you using more energy now than you were before the cravings started? I wonder if you're actually needing more energy than you have been consuming??

    Hello Bron
    I think it may have crept in because I have been doing a very large commission for a new client (I am an artist) which was pricey too. I worry about doing commissions and it may have been this worry that may have stimulated the cravings.
    When I am simply painting for myself, I am quite relaxed about the whole thing. But a commission means you are on show and have to please someone other than yourself. Today the client came and was thrilled with the painting and has paid me even before the framing is done. I feel so relieved and the craving has dropped.
    The painting took me just over a month and the craving really started at the beginning of the final week. I suppose with it being nearly finished I really started to worry about whether the client would like the finished product.
    And, no, I haven't actually been using more energy in a physical way, but perhaps stress uses it in a more subtle way.
    Thanks for taking an interest.
    cheers
    Freda
    Last modified: 30 Apr 2011 5:21 AM | Deleted user
  • 01 May 2011 7:30 PM
    Reply # 581860 on 580237
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    Freda. I think it has to do with cortisol. Here is an article on cortisol that I received as part of a meditation related e-mail. Sorry no link.

    A study at Brandies University has shown that the highest cortisol levels are found in older adults suffering from money stress.
    Cortisol is the hormone that our body produces under stress. A little cortisol is ok - it helps regulate blood pressure and the immune system during a sudden crisis.
    But when your stress is prolonged, or when you worry excessively over things like money, the cortisol in your body goes into "overdrive" and creates a state of chronic stress.  In other words, when you worry a lot or "stress out", your cortisol levels can increase more than normal.
    According to Prevention magazine:     "Chronically high cortisol levels can cause  sleep problems, a depressed immune response, blood sugar abnormalities, and even abdominal weight gain.   

    When cortisol spikes, it tells the body to eat something with a lot of calories--a great survival tactic if   you need energy to flee a predator but not if you're fretting over how to pay bills," says nutritional  biochemist Shawn Talbott,  PhD, author of The Cortisol Connection."
    Talbott adds, "Over the long term, excessive amounts of this "primary stress hormone" can "kill your sex drive, shrink your brain, squelch your immune system, and generally make you feel terrible."
     

    There's a documented relationship between elevated levels of cortisol, chronic stress, and such health conditions as obesity, depression, suppressed immune system, osteoporosis, and hypertension. In high amounts, Cortisol can even kill brains cells.

    But there are simple ways to reduce your cortisol levels and dissolve worries.

    Here are several ways:
    1. Eat at regular intervals throughout the day: Avoid skipping meals, it creates a release of  cortisol in your brain and body.

    2. Excessive carbohydrate intake creates cortisol release in response to constantly elevated insulin levels. Have complex carbohydrates instead. 

    3. Utilize stress reduction techniques at peak cortisol times: meditation, self-hypnosis, or simply lying on the floor doing belly breathing for 10-15 minutes can help to reduce stress and thus cortisol levels. 

    4. Get to bed on time. Get at least 8 hours of sleep  every night. 

    5. Avoid stimulants: Stay away from energy drinks that contain ephedra-like compounds and caffeine.  Stimulants shift the body into sympathetic dominance, or the "fight or flight" mode. Stimulants can also disrupt your sleeping patterns.

    Obviously it then went on to tell you the benefits of meditation, which I do, but not enough.(!)..

    I have been fructose free for 7 months now, and have 'tweaked my food intake a lot. I have to watch how much bread/potatos I eat. But I do have those moments when I do feel like something sweet, & I have it, just not too much.
    My partner hasn't joined me fully, only stopped drinking soft drinks, and hasn't had the money to buy choc bars lately,(thank goodness) as we're flat broke.  But he has resorted to actually cooking himself a self-saucing pudding (packet mix) twice! Obviously I had to have some as well, but the next day, just cut back on everything, & kept myself busy. I do have a bite of his choc coated ice creams when he can afford them. I refuse to buy anything like this, I'd rather have eggs or chicken, so it's only when he has money that he buys these things for himself. Hopefully, as we're broke, he won't have the money to buy these things for a while, which may prompt him to lose some weight & re-think his food intake.
    Despite doing this, I am still losing weight, slowly, and am now 8 kilos down. 30-odd to go!! Yesterday I got on the scales and found I had broken the barrier of the 104 kg nasty (for me), and they showed 103.6. Boy, I did the Nekked Dance around not only the bathroom, but around the bedroom as well !! What a sight that must have been to behold.(!) It's the lowest I've been for 18 years, so I'm happy happy happy  lol. Also, the appetite control has finally kicked in, what a strange feeling after feeling hungry for the past 18 odd years! 

    It's good that you identified the problem though, and can take steps to deal with it. My way of dealing is to stay longer on the Internet than I would normally. I have just discovered a new Spiritual site (I'm a Psychic Healer) which has given me a lot of stuff to think about, so that has kept me busy, & while I'm on the Net, I don't feel hungry. I just eat when mu tummy tells me it's time to have a late lunch.

    Great news about your commission, keep it up, and visualise yourself doing it again, soon, only not getting stressed about it, and it will happen, I promise you. I'll be 70 next year, so know where you're coming from, plus my late hubby, (gone now for 20 years) was an artist, & although I have been with my present dearly beloved now for 19 years in Sept, I still miss him.  So, good luck with it all, keep up with the good work you're doing. You brought a lot of happiness to someone with your painting, so that's good too, yes?  I'll stop now, this is turning into a book!!! lol

    Spreading the Love

    Silver Angel  smile




  • 01 May 2011 8:26 PM
    Reply # 581908 on 580237
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    I found a link to follow the research as I mentioned above. The link is to Shawn Talbott PhD, and the books he has written, the main one here being the Cortisol Connection.

    Link here:-  http://cortisolconnection.com/

    Spreading the Love

    Silver Angel  Smile
  • 02 May 2011 8:43 AM
    Reply # 582250 on 581908
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    Sylvia Liney wrote: I found a link to follow the research as I mentioned above. The link is to Shawn Talbott PhD, and the books he has written, the main one here being the Cortisol Connection.

    Link here:-  http://cortisolconnection.com/

    Spreading the Love

    Silver Angel  Smile

    Thanks very much for your support Sylvia, I really do appreciate it.
    I did meditate for many years and stopped when it no longer suited.
    I find that mostly, except for commissions, painting is the meditation for me.
    I have just come home from life drawing. The life drawing group is very special and also the drawing is like a meditation.
    I do understand about the cortisol and will look more into it.
    cheers
    Freda
  • 04 May 2011 5:44 PM
    Reply # 584326 on 580237
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    You're welcome. Freda.  I'm still chasing around looking at something that will stop the hot flushes I've had since my Doc won't give me hormones any more, about 6 years now. I was on HRT for about 10 years, then came that scare, and my Doc refused to give me them any more, in case I got sick & sued her!!  A female Proffessor at St George Hosp said 'What nonsense, you shouldn't have to suffer' & gave me a script, even sent a lettter to my new Doc, but then she got sick, so I had to find a new Doc, and so lost that link to the Hosp. So suffer I still do. I have found out that lowering my coffee intake helped a little, but I must be eating something else that causes it, 'cos it's erratic, sometimes I get it bad, like Tuesday night, I kept on being woken up by a hot flush, about 5 times, I felt like I hadn't slept at all. Other times I can go about 6 hours without one.
    I felt the calmness in you as you wrote, after the life class, but still, you should take up the meditation again, maybe find a small group you can join to re-learn the new methods.  It will certainly help with your confidence levels. 
    Anyway, I guess you will do what you 'feel' like, at our age, change isn't as welcomed as it should be, eh?
    Good luck with it all, hope it all works out for you.

    Spreading the Love

    Silver Angel  Smile
  • 05 May 2011 8:38 AM
    Reply # 584712 on 584326
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    Sylvia Liney wrote: You're welcome. Freda.  I'm still chasing around looking at something that will stop the hot flushes I've had since my Doc won't give me hormones any more, about 6 years now. I was on HRT for about 10 years, then came that scare, and my Doc refused to give me them any more, in case I got sick & sued her!!  A female Proffessor at St George Hosp said 'What nonsense, you shouldn't have to suffer' & gave me a script, even sent a lettter to my new Doc, but then she got sick, so I had to find a new Doc, and so lost that link to the Hosp. So suffer I still do. I have found out that lowering my coffee intake helped a little, but I must be eating something else that causes it, 'cos it's erratic, sometimes I get it bad, like Tuesday night, I kept on being woken up by a hot flush, about 5 times, I felt like I hadn't slept at all. Other times I can go about 6 hours without one.
    I felt the calmness in you as you wrote, after the life class, but still, you should take up the meditation again, maybe find a small group you can join to re-learn the new methods.  It will certainly help with your confidence levels. 
    Anyway, I guess you will do what you 'feel' like, at our age, change isn't as welcomed as it should be, eh?
    Good luck with it all, hope it all works out for you.

    Spreading the Love

    Silver Angel  Smile


    Thanks Sylvia, as you say, at our age we do what feels right and after 30 years of meditation I have found a new way of being and don't need to practice any more.

    My only lack of confidence comes with commissions and this is something most artists suffer from, some refuse to do commissions because it stresses them out too much.

    I do hope you get over your hot flushes, they sound awful.

    All the best

    Freda

    Last modified: 05 May 2011 8:38 AM | Deleted user
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