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Cider - Apple and Pear

  • 30 May 2011 5:36 AM
    Message # 605457
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    Hi . I am wondering if I need to be concerned about the fructose in pear and apple when they are used to make alchoholic cider or is the fruit sugar converted completely during the process ?

  • 30 May 2011 8:24 AM
    Reply # 605497 on 605457
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    John T wrote:

    Hi . I am wondering if I need to be concerned about the fructose in pear and apple when they are used to make alchoholic cider or is the fruit sugar converted completely during the process ?


    If it's a dry cider, it's fine, the fructose is converted, if it's a sweet cider, then it's a huge no!

    In David's book, he says that dry wine is ok even though it's made out of grapes which contain plenty of fructose but sweet wine is not ok.

    Last modified: 31 May 2011 12:40 AM | Deleted user
  • 08 Jun 2011 2:14 AM
    Reply # 615897 on 605457
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    Dammit I only like the sweet ciders!!!!! lol
  • 09 Jun 2011 4:09 AM
    Reply # 616680 on 605457
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    The new Strongbow cider is pear and the bottle and sleeve makes no reference to dry or sweet but it is 5% ALC. Any clues ?

  • 13 Jun 2011 8:59 PM
    Reply # 620658 on 605497
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    Freda Surgenor wrote:
    John T wrote:

    Hi . I am wondering if I need to be concerned about the fructose in pear and apple when they are used to make alchoholic cider or is the fruit sugar converted completely during the process ?


    If it's a dry cider, it's fine, the fructose is converted, if it's a sweet cider, then it's a huge no!

    In David's book, he says that dry wine is ok even though it's made out of grapes which contain plenty of fructose but sweet wine is not ok.


    I have just joined this forum and bought David's book (waiting for delivery) but I am interested in tyhe comment:

    " In David's book, he says that dry wine is ok even though it's made out of grapes which contain plenty of fructose but sweet wine is not ok."

    Is there a resource anywhere to set out what is defined as "dry wine" and what is not? Is Verdelho "dry" for example? What about red wines? Which of them is considered "not sweet"

    Sorry if this is off the cider topic a bit and if this has been covered elsewhere please let me know.

    I am curious to know what the general concensus is on suger that has been fermented. Is is still dangerous when it has been converted to alcohol (and CO2)? Or is it just that alcohol has other health "dangers"

    Thanks.
  • 14 Jun 2011 9:18 AM
    Reply # 621086 on 620658
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    Steve B wrote:
    Freda Surgenor wrote:
    John T wrote:

    Hi . I am wondering if I need to be concerned about the fructose in pear and apple when they are used to make alchoholic cider or is the fruit sugar converted completely during the process ?


    If it's a dry cider, it's fine, the fructose is converted, if it's a sweet cider, then it's a huge no!

    In David's book, he says that dry wine is ok even though it's made out of grapes which contain plenty of fructose but sweet wine is not ok.


    I have just joined this forum and bought David's book (waiting for delivery) but I am interested in tyhe comment:

    " In David's book, he says that dry wine is ok even though it's made out of grapes which contain plenty of fructose but sweet wine is not ok."

    Is there a resource anywhere to set out what is defined as "dry wine" and what is not? Is Verdelho "dry" for example? What about red wines? Which of them is considered "not sweet"

    Sorry if this is off the cider topic a bit and if this has been covered elsewhere please let me know.

    I am curious to know what the general concensus is on suger that has been fermented. Is is still dangerous when it has been converted to alcohol (and CO2)? Or is it just that alcohol has other health "dangers"

    Thanks.

    Hello Steve and welcome
    You can taste the sweetness of sweet wine. Some of the Italian Wines are sweet, like an Italian red called Moscato di Scanz.

    And it usually says on the bottle if a wine is sweet. But most reds are dry and you can taste that they are so.

    There are desert wines which are very sweet and luncheon wines are also sweet, but not as sweet as the desert wines.

    When sugar ferments into alcohol it is no longer harmful as sugar, and as you say, alcohol itself when over consumed can be very unhealthy. And yes, Verdelho is dry.

    I hope you get David's book soon, he explains this far better than I can!
    cheers
    Freda
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