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  • 16 Aug 2011 8:24 AM
    Message # 677404
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    I can't seem to see anything here, but I really need to start getting off sugar as soon as possible as I'm totally addicted.  I've ordered the books, but in the meantime I wonder what you'd suggest as a good thing to have for breakfast?  I note yogurts and cereals are all off, which is basically what I have for breakfast...any alternatives or any websites with sugar-free menu plans that I could go to?
    Many thanks for any information you can give.
    Liz
  • 16 Aug 2011 5:02 PM
    Reply # 677744 on 677404
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    Hi- Welcome!

    I enjoy big fry ups for brekkie- bacon, egg, mushies,veg, with a dollop of'real' mayo on top. Also fry up a Golden wholemeal crumpet- they are sweetened (marginally) with dextrose, so fine. The new Molenberg 'Chia' is the lowest sugar levelled bread I've found, and yummy. Coles stock it.

    As for yoghurt- I am having the Nestle Diet brand- they list their sugars, even fructose, levels very minor. The best are those new duo packs 'am &pm', The lemon meringue is to die for. Thicker than they used to be. Its label read: 'sugar5.9g- fructose 0.5, sucrose less than 0.1g, lactose 5.4g.' Lactose is fine.There is a 'Liver-cleansing Muesli' in WW healthfood isle- no sugars/fruit at all- Dr Sandra Cabot backed- nice too. Yummy nuts in it.

     

    Enjoy this huge learning curve, I certainly did/am! :)

  • 16 Aug 2011 8:42 PM
    Reply # 677837 on 677404
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    Elizabeth Jones wrote:I can't seem to see anything here, but I really need to start getting off sugar as soon as possible as I'm totally addicted.  I've ordered the books, but in the meantime I wonder what you'd suggest as a good thing to have for breakfast?  I note yogurts and cereals are all off, which is basically what I have for breakfast...any alternatives or any websites with sugar-free menu plans that I could go to?
    Many thanks for any information you can give.
    Liz

    Hello Elizabeth and welcome
    Be careful with the diet yoghurts of any type.
    David, in his books, is not keen on artificial sweeteners and advises us not to eat anything low fat as we don't know what effect the process of making something low fat has on the body.
    Also, Nestle has more in their diet yoghurt than is first apparent................
    This is the Nutritional chart for their Lemon Meringue diet yoghurt.
     

    Average Quantity per Serving

    % Daily Intake* (per Serving)

    Average

    Quantity

    per 100g

    Energy

    227kJ (54Cal)

    3%

    151kJ (36Cal)

    Protein

    6.0g

    12%

    4.0g

    Fat, Total

    LES THAN 0.2g

    0%

    LESS THAN 0.15g

    - Saturated

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    0%

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    Carbohydrate

    6.6g

    2%

    4.4g

    - Sugars

    5.9g

    7%

    3.9g

    - Fructose

    0.5g

     

    0.3g

    - Sucrose

    LESS THAN 0.1g 

     

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    - Lactose

    5.4g

     

    3.6g

    Dietary Fibre 1.1g 4% 0.7g

    Sodium

    71mg

    3%

    47mg

    Calcium

    162mg (20%RDI**)

     

    108mg

           
    As you can see, they have separated the lactose from the sugars, lactose is no problem to us at all as it turns into glucose, which is fine.
    There are nearly six grams of sugars in the yoghurt and in the ingredients list on their website, there is added fruit juice as well as the artificial sweeteners.
    Your best bet is to have a plain yoghurt and add some kiwi fruit or blueberries to it for a little sweetness. David allows two pieces of fruit a day and no fruit juice.
    The Liver Cleansing Muesli is excellent but I do add some kiwi fruit to that as, to me, it is a bit like eating cardboard. And I have this with full cream milk.
    cheers
    Freda
  • 17 Aug 2011 12:30 AM
    Reply # 678024 on 677404
    Anonymous

    The Homestyle Bakery (also available at Coles) has even less at 0.5g of sugar per 100g (no sugar in ingredients) and is only $2.50 a loaf and is normal sized slices (not small and heavy like some) and comes in wholemeal, multigrain and white bread.  And my whole family loves it.

    For breakfast I have 3 Coles Wheat Biscuits (nothing in them except wheat and salt) with unprocessed bran (tablespoon) and whole milk, microwaved.  Alternate breakfasts for me include Golden Crumpet wholemeal with butter and rice malt syrup, or with peanut butter, vegemite etc.  Or toast with avocado and either vegemite or tomato.  Or french toast (savoury), or any number of egg dishes.

  • 17 Aug 2011 11:41 AM
    Reply # 678380 on 677404
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    Thank you all for your helpful suggestions!  I have one small problem however - lactose intolerant.... and second problem is I live in the Middle East so sometimes it's hard to get a wide variety of foods here. However I've just made myself some natural muesli with oatmeal, nuts and seeds, and will use the local 'laban' which is sort of like drinking yogurt but no sugar, and I can tolerate it.  I like the cooked breakfast option, too! :)  As for bread, I will have to hunt hard for no-sugar 'real' bread, but we have extremely cheap flat breads here (like pita) which don't have sugar, so I can stick to them.  Arabs here have extremely sweet teeth, so nearly everything is sweetened (hence the incredibly high diabetes rate here, too...), and it's really hard to find any food without some kind of sugar in it.  I will keep trying!  
    Thanks again for all your helpful hints :)
  • 17 Aug 2011 4:23 PM
    Reply # 678600 on 677837
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    Freda Surgenor wrote:
    Elizabeth Jones wrote:I can't seem to see anything here, but I really need to start getting off sugar as soon as possible as I'm totally addicted.  I've ordered the books, but in the meantime I wonder what you'd suggest as a good thing to have for breakfast?  I note yogurts and cereals are all off, which is basically what I have for breakfast...any alternatives or any websites with sugar-free menu plans that I could go to?
    Many thanks for any information you can give.
    Liz

    Hello Elizabeth and welcome
    Be careful with the diet yoghurts of any type.
    David, in his books, is not keen on artificial sweeteners and advises us not to eat anything low fat as we don't know what effect the process of making something low fat has on the body.
    Also, Nestle has more in their diet yoghurt than is first apparent................
    This is the Nutritional chart for their Lemon Meringue diet yoghurt.
     

    Average Quantity per Serving

    % Daily Intake* (per Serving)

    Average

    Quantity

    per 100g

    Energy

    227kJ (54Cal)

    3%

    151kJ (36Cal)

    Protein

    6.0g

    12%

    4.0g

    Fat, Total

    LES THAN 0.2g

    0%

    LESS THAN 0.15g

    - Saturated

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    0%

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    Carbohydrate

    6.6g

    2%

    4.4g

    - Sugars

    5.9g

    7%

    3.9g

    - Fructose

    0.5g

     

    0.3g

    - Sucrose

    LESS THAN 0.1g 

     

    LESS THAN 0.1g

    - Lactose

    5.4g

     

    3.6g

    Dietary Fibre 1.1g 4% 0.7g

    Sodium

    71mg

    3%

    47mg

    Calcium

    162mg (20%RDI**)

     

    108mg

           
    As you can see, they have separated the lactose from the sugars, lactose is no problem to us at all as it turns into glucose, which is fine.
    There are nearly six grams of sugars in the yoghurt and in the ingredients list on their website, there is added fruit juice as well as the artificial sweeteners.
    Your best bet is to have a plain yoghurt and add some kiwi fruit or blueberries to it for a little sweetness. David allows two pieces of fruit a day and no fruit juice.
    The Liver Cleansing Muesli is excellent but I do add some kiwi fruit to that as, to me, it is a bit like eating cardboard. And I have this with full cream milk.
    cheers
    Freda


    Hi Freda.

    I dispute this, am waiting for response from David. Understand in many products they muck with ingredients in lowfat versions. I think they have typo'ed on their ingredient list- I took (from above) the lactose plus fructose and the smidge of sucrose to be the total sugar content of5.4g. With the added fruit juice, their sugars would have to be in their fructose & sucrose readings.I think the lactose is the majority of the sugar in this product. So .5g of 'bad' sugars- allowable. Total 5.9g- the sugar amount listed.

    With sweeteners, they are from Davids 'your call' list. I think it is extreme to suggest new 'followers' to not eat products if these are in them.

    In alot of dairy, reduced fat just means reduced calories- helpful for when our appetites are recovering I think.

    Don't let this confuse you Elizabeth :)

  • 17 Aug 2011 8:54 PM
    Reply # 678753 on 677404
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    Am I right to say there is 5.9g of sugar per serve? That's above the daily allowance anyway so what does it matter what the ingredients are. The only 'good' yogurt is unflavoured plain yogurt. Flavour it with rice malt syrup or berries if you like it sweeter. No point sabotaging yourself with something which has little nutritional value anyway.

  • 18 Aug 2011 12:15 AM
    Reply # 678847 on 677404
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    I rotate 3 meals for breakfast. In no particular order, so it doesnt get boring !
    1. all protein cook up : sausages, bacon and steak : not big amounts of each
    2. 2 x Weetbix, plus a cup of the muesli that is in David's Quit Book, plus a pear chopped up, pysilium husk and 250ml of full milk with Protein powder ( sometimes add Natural Yog or Nestle Diet Yog )
    3. My smoothie : 2 glasses of water, 1 glass milk, berries, 3 x tbls rolled oats, yogurt, egg, scoop protein powder, pysilium husk, almonds

    I like them all and they seem to give me a good kick off to the day. I look forward to breakfast actually !

    Muzza

  • 18 Aug 2011 1:42 AM
    Reply # 678874 on 678753
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    Sally McKenzie wrote:

    Am I right to say there is 5.9g of sugar per serve? That's above the daily allowance anyway so what does it matter what the ingredients are. The only 'good' yogurt is unflavoured plain yogurt. Flavour it with rice malt syrup or berries if you like it sweeter. No point sabotaging yourself with something which has little nutritional value anyway.


    5.4g of the sugar is Lactose- like milk, so fine. The unlikeable sugar amount per-serve(100g) is .4g, well under the 3g guideline.
  • 20 Aug 2011 9:58 PM
    Reply # 681123 on 677404
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    I'm with you Sally. No-one has said what size a 'serving size' is, have they? Per 100 grams, there is a total of 7.9 % sugars. We should all be looking at the 'per 100 grams' listing, shouldn't we? Then the ingredients, and work it out from there. Me, give me an omelette any day. Sprinkled with shredded cheese, (I keep my packet in the freezer), then a couple of sliced mushrooms, ham & half an avocado, just yummy. Or Porridge with Rice Malt Syrup & a little fruit free muesli, and a little cream on top. (thanks to Bron for getting me onto that, I love it, Bron with the syrup)......otherwise, I'll just have egg on cheese on toast, or an egg sandwich with cheese. When the bananas get cheaper I may go back to having a little fruit free muesli with half a banana & cream on top. That chia bread sounded good, must look for it. I agree with whoever said about the small thick heavy slices of some of the breads, more of everything. I can't eat white bread any more, it just tastes awful. 
    Good luck with finding your ingredients in the Middle East. But I still think the plain Greek style yoghurt with smashed berries in it for sweetener is the way to go. But how did you eat yoghurt if you are lactose intolerant? 

    Silver Angel
    SMILE !!!


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