David Gillespie - Day 2 sugar free

26 Jun 2012 2:58 AM

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Hi guys, I have been a member of this site for about 6 months after seeing David talking about surgar free living and feeling that a lot of what he went through resonanted with myself. So finally I have taken the plunge, my reasons are as follows:

1. cannot shift a meazeley 4 kilos of wieght ( which doesn't sound much but I'm only 5ft)

2. most of that wieght is around my middle section and I feel like I'm a size 6-8 everywhere else but a size 12 around my gut!!!

3. I have read enough now to know that storing fat around your tummy is the worst place to store it and I'm at risk of lots of hideous health issues.

4. I AM ADDICTED TO SUGAR

5. I want to try my children on this way of life, mostly because my youngest at 12 is full of allergies, always has a runny nose and is a worse sugar junkie than me.

6. I'm 40 next year and feel the need for drastic action....NOW!

So now you know my story.

I started midway through yesterday, I was on Sarah Wilson's site and David's site looking for inspiration and I just decided to give it a go. Hey if Sarah can do it, why can't I? So the book is in the mail and Sarah's is on my computer. I know I should prob read the literature first but I'm in the zone and just wish to run with it.

Morning wasn't too bad I had an egg on toast and my morning coffee (never had sugar anyway). Lunch I had salad and sashimi tuna - no problems! I resisted the urge to eat the mentos on the front desk in front of my nose at work for customers and ignored the fun size twix ( that I bought) at the staff coffee station. Right now I feel I little headachey, mainly because I would have had a sweet cookie or chocolate by now. I'm still eating fruit to help with the sugar cravings, I ate one banana on the way home from work. Expecting tomorrow to be harder than today as I'm not a sugar glutton but for example last night at my parents for dinner mum pulled the Ben and Jerry's icecream and lindt chocolate wafers for desert sundaes and I had to decline. I had gasps of "Really, no ice cream!!" and "Are you ill?", I suspect the temptation will get worse as I progress.

Questions: Is having a glass of wine cheating? (would like something to look forward to)

Can you have a protien shake for lunch or is that very sugary, I have these usually at work so I don't overeat and hit the food court or thai restaurant?

I'm hoping to see some differances in the way I feel and look over the coming weeks. I will keep you posted.

C

01 Jul 2012 7:41 PM

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Hi Claire and welcome. The first bit is the hardest, as you overcome the addiction and get used to the taste of food without sugar. You can get Ben and Jerry's ? Are you in the US ? I have to confess, before I went sugar free, I'd buy every flavour I'd not tried and a few favourites, every time I was in the US, and the people I stay with, knew I was serious when I said I wasn't going to buy any !!

Protein shakes are all bad news, they are mostly sugar. You will find that as you come off sugar, your appetite control will work and you won't overeat simply because you feel full and don't want to. In the meantime, just try to eat a small meal and wait a half hour to see if you want more. In general, I would say that if you want the easiest possible path, just don't eat sugar, stay away from dodgy 'diet' foods like protein shakes, and once your appetite control kicks in, you will start losing weight. If you want to get it moving sooner, just start eating less deliberately, but don't eat diet stuff. For fun, go through your supermarket and see how many 'weight watchers' foods don't have sugar in them. Good luck....

I believe wine can be fine, depending on what sort. But I don't drink, so I don't know for sure. I think a dry wine is fine, a sweet wine is sweet b/c of sugar. You CAN buy dextrose and use it to make fructose free sweets, although if you eat too many, your calorie intake won't drop and you won't lose weight as quickly. I make a sugar free cheesecake or similar once a week for a family get together and find that looking forward to that really helps me when I miss eating sweets ( although I miss it very rarely, to be honest, and when I do it, I don't find I enjoy it as much as I used to anyhow ).

02 Jul 2012 8:42 PM

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Hi Christian,

Yes we can get Ben and Jerry's in Australia, that and a lot more sweet american treats!!

I looked at the ingredients list of the protien shake I was having and discovered to my horror that it contained 40.3gr of sugar!!!!! No wonder I liked it so much I may as well have had a thickshake from Macca's. So I have given up the shakes, i didn't lose any wieght on them anyway so it was an expensive waste of time.

I'm one week in and have found it not as difficult as I expected, I succumbed once on day 3 when a client brought in some dark choc Lindt balls, I had one with a coffee and you know what I didn't beat myself up I just savoured the taste and moved on. If I really need something I will have a kiwi fruit or mandarin, but I've pretty much cut all fruit now as well.

I have found though that I'm overcompensating with other things I wouldn't normally overindulge in. Coffee is a big one I've gone from 1-2 cups to 3-4 cups a day. Not sure why I think it makes me feel like I'm having a treat when I may have reached for a sweet thing.

I've found reading David's book helpful to harden my resolve and Sarah Wilson's ebook "I quit Sugar" is a super easy read that inspired me greatly.

Thanks for your info, I greatly enjoy reading the discussions as it helps with my own determination.

Claire

02 Jul 2012 8:44 PM

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btw Christian I would be very interested in that sugar free cheesecake recipe!! I'm a fan of baking and kind of miss it..

03 Jul 2012 12:29 AM

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Hi Claire. A dark chocolate lindor ball is not that bad. Don't eat them all the time, but dark chocolate is (relatively) low sugar, white is the worst. And one ball, it's not an every day thing, but if you have one once in a while, it's less sugar than one soft drink, by far. That dark chocolate is good for you is a myth, but if you must have a small chocolate from time to time and you can't come at the recipes that people post around the place for sugar free ( which are basically compound chocolate made with cocoa and dextrose ), then dark is the way to do it. In fact, instead of looking for antioxidants, we need to simply stop oxidising, by not eating sugar.

The recipe is in the 'Sweet Poison Quit Plan', it's not in the recipes on this site. The other one I use ( non bake ) is here, and it is delicious:

http://www.squidoo.com/cooking-with-dextrose

I am in Tasmania. I have seen B&J in the Sydney domestic terminal, although on my last trip I noticed it was gone and I had noticed it was both very expensive, and they had none of the best flavours anyhow :-) I guess one less thing for me to worry about, now that I'm not eating it.

03 Jul 2012 3:26 AM

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Am I picking up that you haven't actually read any of David's books? If so, I suggest you start with Sweet Poison Quit Plan and then, if you want more of the detailed background information get Sweet Poison. Then read Big Fat Lies.

Also try to find out what your ideal weight is. Maybe you don't need to be too anxious about it. The Dukan Diet web site has a free calculator which will help you with this. Certainly adiposity [tummy fat] is bad because the vital organs are swamped in fat.

And what is your Body Mass Index? * Over 25 is overweight and over 30 is obese.

As we used to say when training people to quit smoking "Don't give up!" . . . . . . giving up :-)

JohnN

* weight/height-squared - M(kg)/H x H (m) e.g. 100(kg) /1.65x1.65(m) = 33.3 = obese

03 Jul 2012 4:49 PM

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Just to add, 25 is the TOP of the acceptable BMI range, and at 25, people think I may have cancer and are urging me to not lose more weight. So don't let the BMI index worry you too much, it's not totally wrong ( 40 is definitely bad ), but don't feel you need to get to 22, it may not be possible. Just eat properly and let your body show you what you should weigh, that's all I did.

04 Jul 2012 5:53 AM

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From your original post:

Questions: Is having a glass of wine cheating? (would like something to look forward to)

Can you have a protien shake for lunch or is that very sugary, I have these usually at work so I don't overeat and hit the food court or thai restaurant?

Wine is OK as most of the fructose has been converted to alcohol which is OK. But of course, it has its own problems if you overdo it. The RDI these days is two standard drinks . . each of about 100ml of normal strength wine, per day. Spirits are OK for the same reasons. But avoid sweet wines and liqueurs as they are generally loaded with sugar. Things like Bailey's Irish Cream aren't too bad because the 15% in them is mostly lactose which is OK.

Shakes are generally sugary. Check the labels. When your appetite-control system is working OK you won't need that stuff. You can eat what you want when you want, as long as it doesn't contain fructose.

JohnN

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09 Jul 2012 8:37 PM

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Hi Guys,

thanks for all the info, I have been bush for a while with the family so have had no internet to respond. Thanks John my body mass index is 23.5 so that does indicate I'm in the healthy range, it's my waist that isn't in the healthy range, so i try to focus on that. I have read the sweet poison book and intend to read the big fat lies soon. I'm finding the road not too hard going and even though I've not budged a kilo yet I figure I'm probably not going to easily as it's probably the weight I'm supposed to be.

I have to say I'm coping quite well and even when I have a couple of little set backs I just recognise them for what they were and move on. I do feel clear headed and not as tired in the afternoons, which is one benefit I'm putting down to quitting sugar. What this has opened my eyes to is the vast amounts of sugar my children consume! Yikes it frightened me. I'm certainly checking labels and have stopped buying the sugary snacks of the past.

Cheers

Claire

09 Jul 2012 9:58 PM

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I am 86 kg now, and my wife is upset at all the bones she's finding on me ( hips, ribs, etc ). I am thin. For all that, I still have a pudgy belly and I think I just need to exercise to get it in shape, I don't think it's weight I need to lose. Either way, even if you find you don't need to lose weight, you'll still feel better and live longer without sugar in your diet :-)