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Zero Weight Loss but SUGAR-FREE for 2 months :(

  • 07 Sep 2012 1:48 AM
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    Christian Graus wrote:I do think it's wrong to assume everyone is the same.  Being sugar free is definitely not enough for my wife or daughter to lose weight, for example.  For all that, I think that the main goal of being sugar free is health, not weight.  Some of the people who post here have indicated they are not losing as much as they hope, but then they post some details and their BMI is under 20 ( which means they definitely do not need to lose weight ).  So, I guess you need to tread your own path, based on what your goals are, but no matter what else I did, for whatever reason, I think I'll always avoid sugar as much as possible, and aim to not eat it at all.

    I find it bloody frustrating Christian because I read a book claiming to lose sugar craving, lose interest in food and just eat what is needed and lose a heap of weight.  It feels like false advertising. I totally get what you mean about health and weight loss, but I am totally more focused on losing weight to be more healthy than anything else, and it was working the way I was doing it and I stopped to try this way because of all these good results which im not seeing which is definitely frustrating and disappointing.  I've lost maybe 2kgs which I have already gained back so im not seeing any results at all.
  • 08 Sep 2012 12:23 AM
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    Hi Rebecca.  I'm sorry it's not working for you.  I don't think you're necessarily doing anything 'wrong', I guess it just doesn't work for everyone.  I suspect the theory is incomplete, and only accounts for those for whom it works, if that makes sense.  It certainly worked for me, and for others.  Like I said, I think your best bet is to do what works for you, I've often said, it's not a cult, you're free to take on board what the book says, what other people suggest, and find what works for you.
  • 08 Sep 2012 4:55 AM
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    Christian Graus wrote:Hi Rebecca.  I'm sorry it's not working for you.  I don't think you're necessarily doing anything 'wrong', I guess it just doesn't work for everyone.  I suspect the theory is incomplete, and only accounts for those for whom it works, if that makes sense.  It certainly worked for me, and for others.  Like I said, I think your best bet is to do what works for you, I've often said, it's not a cult, you're free to take on board what the book says, what other people suggest, and find what works for you.
    hahah you crack me up. Yes I do get what you are saying and im still trying to incorporate what im eating as fructose free im probably not having small enough meals or being strict enough, so I will start making a list of what I eat again and how much sugar is in it and see how that goes,  I have been fairly slack the past few months, but the main thing is I haven't gained, but I would definitely prefer to lose at least another 20kgs :)
  • 02 Oct 2012 8:30 AM
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    I went absolutely cold turkey July 2010, after hearing David speaking about the effects of fructose, on ABC's Conversation Hour. From eating 1/2 a packet of (fat-free!) jubes every afternoon to stay awake, and eating what I thought was a healthy fat-free diet that included a lot of fat-free items (with more sugar of course) to as close to nothing sweet as possible. I started feeling more energetic immediately and lost a lot of unpleasant GI effects, along with saying goodbye to hot flushes.
    The weight started to peel off about a month later, and went into free-fall. At the same time I started eating full-fat foods, including hot chips, cheeses, and other savoury delights that I'd always avoided and now found an appetite for. At the same time I started drinking water as never before - never really liked it before; now enjoy it and can't go anywhere without a bottle on hand.
    I was happy to go down from size 22 to size 18. However it levelled out for some reason before it got down to where I would have liked.
    I weigh myself every day because it keeps me focused, and because eating the wrong thing shows up immediately on the scales. The other thing is that it is so hard to avoid fructose when you eat food prepared by others, that a totally fructose-free fortnight hasn't occurred for a long time. I've been carrying around a BSL/lipids bloods request form for a long time trying to get to that magic fortnight.
    The three main things that I have to watch (in addition to anything containing fructose!) and that have immediate effect:
    # eating white bread and pastry
    # not drinking enough water
    # not getting enough sleep
    Hope this helps.
  • 03 Oct 2012 12:59 AM
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    David advises against using dextrose as a sugar substitute during the withdrawal period. perhaps by doing so you are extending that indefinitely.

    I suggest asking David directly at the contact link on http://sweetpoison.com.au/

    Don't give up!

    JohnN
  • 04 Oct 2012 12:39 AM
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    John Neilson wrote:David advises against using dextrose as a sugar substitute during the withdrawal period. perhaps by doing so you are extending that indefinitely.

    I suggest asking David directly at the contact link on http://sweetpoison.com.au/

    Don't give up!

    JohnN

    Two points:

     1 - David's advice is based on his experience and as such is not the 'final word' on such things, it's not backed by real research

    2 - his advice is not to use dextrose during a GRADUAL withdrawal, if you're still eating fructose, then don't eat dextrose.

    If fructose is addictive, if the book is true at all, then no matter how much dextrose you eat, it won't change that you're withdrawing from eating fructose.  The only possibility ( which remains possible and probably true either way ), is that some people keep eating sweets for emotional or other reasons, so appetite control has nothing to do with it.

  • 08 Oct 2012 5:54 PM
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    Dear Everyone That Posted On Here,

    Can I just say that this thread has been the most interesting, informative, emotional, helpful and relatable topic I've read on this forum. Good job To you all as i have just learned a heap more and am encouraged to persevere.

    I have to say I was attracted by the topic because it was exactly what I was thinking/feeling and I had deliberately come on here to rant about the same as Selina but she beat me to the punch! There are quite a few people on this thread I can relate to - firstly Selina as I also need to lose at least 15 kg to begin with and then perhaps another 5-10 depending on how happy I am with the initial 15 (I'm 98kg and 5'10 - picture a fair skinned amazon woman with swimmers shoulders and seriously good child bearing hips! Needless to say I rarely feel feminine..:-)) I have been fructose free probably about 6 weeks and it is definitely the easiest shall I say 'eating plan' I have ever experienced. I experienced a detox head cold after one week for about a week but apart from that all systems go. I was not a soft drink or fruit juice drinker or lolly gobbler though. LOVE good quality ice cream and quality fresh baked French pastries. The dextrose ice cream recipe has been my savior but it seems may also be my saboteur... Waaaahhhh!!! So after reading Selina's post and the subsequent replies I will be laying of my delicious choc chip, toasted almond egg yolk ice cream invention :-( & see if this rewards me with some results.

    I too have a lap band but since the initial 16kg loss in the first 6 months after the op I have pretty much had no more results in the following 2 years so have tried several other methods of weight loss, this being the latest. 

    Please continue to post individual journeys as it is always comforting to relate to others that are experiencing similarities or sames and this thread certainly pushed me into the second gear I needed this morning... :-)

    Xx
  • 09 Oct 2012 1:17 AM
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    Selina Sattler wrote:Thank you everyone for your comments.

    You are all SO right... that it is frustrating and especially for women, there are so many factors involved. 

    I have realised a couple of things from your answers though:

    1. We have TOTALLY been having dextrose in everything that we were having sugar in before. That meant that I was not only increasing my carbs (more dextrose scones etc) but also, not necessarily eating less. Going to stop doing that! haha

    2. That is takes time. I think hormonally, my body is all over the place (even after 2 kids) and so I do okay for a week or 2, and then my weight goes right back up again probably relative to my menstrual cycle though.

    3. I think I might throw out my scales :) I rely on them so much, and I think they can be just as much a demotivator, as they ever are a motivator. You are right - I feel like I have more energy, can think clearer and having needed a day sleep since I stopped eating sugar... that all has to count for something too.

    So I shall persevere.... I do tend to give up on things easily and with no patience at all (I must work on that!) I tend to get frustrated when there is no results or slow results....  But, as you said Janie - it took 15 years to put on that much weight, I can't expect to lose it all Biggest Loser style in a few short weeks.

    Thanks again everyone........


    1. Is your appetite-control system working?  If you feel slightly uncomfortably "full" at the end of your meals it is. If not, it isn't.
    2. David recommends NOT substituting dextrose for sucrose during the withdrawal period. By doing so you may be extending that.
    3. He also recommends going low-carb for a few weeks if you aren't losing weight. Lots of ways of doing that in the bookshop or on the net.
    4. If you aren't losing weight the scales may be a DE-motivator. I suggest weekly weighing. Also measure your waist at the belly-button and aim for 94cm (male), 80cm (female).
    5.Are you aware of the hidden sugar in processed foods? If so do you check the "sugars" content of everything you buy to eat?  You need to be especially watchful of "low-fat" products. Check the ingredients list too.
    6. Watch out for non-kosher sugars which do not metabolize as glucose. See lists in Sweet Poison Quit Plan p.55.  Many have similar sounding names to acceptable sugars, but metabolize as fructose.
    7. Do you ever eat "comfort food"? If so, stop before the first mouthful and ask yourself what feeling you are experiencing. Then just let the feeling  go, like dropping a stone from your hand.
    8. Have you checked your ideal weight?  There is a good free calculator at http://www.dukandiet.co.uk/

    Don't give up :-)

    JohnN








  • 09 Oct 2012 10:29 PM
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    Thank-you John for that piece of advice re the Appetite Control. I wasn't sure if mine had kicked in, as sometimes I do feel uncomfortably full and at other times I don't and could easily eat more. Sometimes I will have a very satisfying meal and then 1 hour later I feel like eating something.

    I have really enjoyed this thread. Thank-you all for the other comments and feed back.

    I have been Sugar free for nearly 3 months now. I am not weighing myself but my clothes feel tight so I definately have not lost any weight and I think I put some on when I first started. I will try eating less Carbs and see if that helps. I have 20 Kilos of weight to lose and would still not be thin. I can't bear the idea of dieting asny-more. I have done Weight Watchers several times but the weight always comes back.

    I have been eating Sugar Free Chocolate on occassion and Doctor Atkins Protein Bars which are very low in Sugar but are quite high in Calories.

    The positives are that I don't crave sugar any-more . When I see cakes and biscuits I son't want them now where I couldn't resist before. I do love cheese though and full fat Greek Style yoghurt. I have both of these nearly every day as a snack.

    The other day my husband had an ice cream from Cold Rock and asked me to taste it. I had a tiny bit and found it too sweet now and didn't like it, and I love ice-cream. The same happened with a chocolate. I am used to the sugar free dark chocolate that is quite bitter.

    I read soemwhwere on this sight that it took 6 months for their appetite control to kick in, so I am hanging in their.

    Cheers

    Miriam
  • 09 Oct 2012 10:38 PM
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    I must amend my last post I have only been sugar free since 11th August 2012 so thats 2 months tomorrow, not nearly 3 months as I originally thought.

    Miriam
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