David Gillespie - Zero Weight Loss but SUGAR-FREE for 2 months :(

10 Oct 2012 8:06 PM

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Miriam,

I think I'm a bit the same as you... wondering about this appetite control bit. I have certainly not experienced the 'i just don't want to eat feeling' or too full from afternoon snack to eat dinner, I still experience hunger grumbles after about 4 hours and wonder if thats normal or only what fructose eaters feel? I'm only about 6 weeks in but was not a massive sugar consumer anyway. Of course i ate it and knowingly but not how DG describes. I was not into soft drink, fruit juice, lollies, chocolate, biscuits and the like. I did/do have a weakness for good quality ice cream and french pastries and baked goods but obviously haven't been eating these apart from the dextrose ice cream i made and a batch of Anzacs from DG's book.

I'm thinking that maybe the people that have had extraordinary results were pretty big sugar munchers in the first place which is why its such a drastic change..? I'm noticing that the trend that people that have tried a million different diets and stuff are the ones struggling with results so i am trying to identify the common thread here...are our digestive sysytems so confused and abused with what they've already experpienced that it takes a much longer time to adjust..?

If we eliminate fructose and then also deduct carbs/grains on top are we not just reverting back to Atkins, Dukan, Bodytrim, Sureslim and Paleo but with the luxury of more vegetables...?

I'm keen to continue to see if the appetite thingy does kick in because it would be lovely to have no care about what I'm consuming and just to eat for the sake of staying alive. I'm terribley over having to rely on willpower and quash hunger pangs and cravings for the not so healthy stuff.

xx

10 Oct 2012 10:14 PM

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Kim,

I'm with you. I agree with everything you say.

I am also hanging in there. I am so so so over dieting.

I must say though, that my friend Mark who introduced me to the Sweet Poison Book. Started a few months before me. I don't think he was a big sugar eater and he is not massively over weight but he said he lost 13 kilos in weight in the first 3 months. He said he hasn't done anything apart from cutting out sugar. He said that after awhile he couldn't eat as much as he used too. He would always go back for 2nd and even 3rd portions but doesn't anymore as he is satisfied after the 1st helping. Maybe it's a MAN thing. I don't know. I am hoping it will happen to me soon. He wasn't big on exercise either.

Miriam

Good Luck to everyone. I hope it works out for us as it's worked for other people on this site.

15 Oct 2012 3:43 AM

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Hang in there people. I really struggled to begin with and like some of you are saying , I wasn't a big sugar eater either. My husband id diabetic so we were always conscious of that. Now after 6 months my daughter and I have lost almost 10 kilos each. Don't feel like I am dieting, just have to be more organised and prepared than I was before eg making own tomato sauce and tartare sauce and making sure the shopping is done.

We have just completed a 2 week drive from perth to melbourne and back. On the way over I had made Anzac biscuits and muffins with dextrose as snacks but didn't have any on the way back. Managed to stay on target and for the first time ever came back from holiday weighing the same as when I left.

I know I could be loosing weight faster by cutting back on carbs and not eating even the "safe" baked goods and we still resort to the odd takeaway (no sauce or mayo).

I no longer think of this as a diet, we are happy, healthier and not finding it a struggle so plan to keep on even when we reach our goal weight (15 - 20Kg to go for me!).

I think the fact we are doing it as a family has helped.

Janie

16 Oct 2012 3:46 AM

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During a ecent thread about unexpected weight gain David suggested going "low-carb" for a while. It may work with slower weight loss than you want.

Thre's a good book on this subject called Waist Disposal by Dr John Briffa [not a medical doctor].

JohnN

20 Oct 2012 8:40 PM

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My husband is getting quite frustrated as after being Sugar free for at least 2 months now, still no weight loss.

Owing to work load unable to do any exercise. He is a shift worker, 1 week day shift, 1 week night shift, 1 week off work.

Week off is like a holiday, as unable to drink whilst working drinks more alcohol, such as Red Wine,Beer and Whisky.

I am sure his appetite has decreased as he seems to be eating less.

Upside of being Sugar free is his Blood Pressure, which was a little high is perfect.

Any suggestions of losing weight would be appreciated.

21 Oct 2012 12:40 AM

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Pauline, it's basic physics. If you read the books, David points out that exercise only helps if you deliberately go hungry, otherwise, working out makes you hungry and you eat more to compensate. But, I lost 18 kg in just over 2 months, and 10 in the first month, and I did no exercise. All I did was stop eating sugar, and eat a whole lot less as I was full. But, I'm not going to tell you that will work for you, or your husband, people can have different medical issues or other reasons that their appetite control doesn't function in the same way. However, if you want to focus on weight loss, you need to eat less. Not eating sugar helps because it SHOULD help you to be full on less, and because sugar goes right to fat, but whatever the details of how you're feeling in regards to appetite, etc, the physics is straightforward. If you REALLY want to lose weight, eat less. If you can't do it by feeling full, then do it by measuring out meals and not snacking.

Remember, before sugar was widely available and in all foods, there were still fat people. Not eating sugar is not the whole answer for everyone. But I do believe it's healthier for every person, regardless of what you end up weighing.

21 Oct 2012 4:17 AM

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Hang in there folks! The fact that your appetite-control system is working means you will derive the benefits in due course.. It may be helpful to check your "ideal weight" at http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/av.htm You may be near it already. But if so that's no reason to start eating fructose again :-)

JohnN

21 Oct 2012 9:52 PM

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Hi Christian,

I have been sugar free for over 2 months now and I don't think I haved lost any weight either. I have not weighed myself so am not totally sure but my clothes still feel quite firm.

I totally agree with you. If you want to lose weight, you need to eat less and I must admit that when I first went off sugar I really went to town eating cheese and nuts. That I would mnot eat before, as they are high in fat.

Anyway I am trying to eat less and am hanging in there. As I have said before at least I don't crave sugar now.

I really feel like ice-cream though. I went looking for a low sugar variety but couldn't find anything. I will have to make some myself.

Cheers Miriam

22 Oct 2012 12:37 AM

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I make my own sugar free ice cream, perhaps once every two weeks. The fundamental thing here is that everyone is different. For example, any women with polycystic ovaries will find their appetite control is never going to work properly. So, there's no point in anyone making broad pronouncements to judge others based on how much weight they loose, of if they still feel hungry a lot, etc. Fundamentally, guys have it easier because we are less likely to have issues that impact on appetite, and also just because we're less likely to come to this from a history of watching what we eat or trying to lose weight. If you tried other diets, then you already watched your caloric intake, so of course you were probably already seeing a lot of the benefits of dieting, the difference here is entirely that if you can get your appetite control working, you can be full all the time. Either way, not eating sugar is clearly better for you, no matter what you end up weighing, but if you really want to lose it, you may have to go beyond the advice in the book ( written by a man ) and actually count your calories. Not eating sugar will make you more successful, but there's no reason to assume it will make you lose weight all by itself. As I've said, it did for me ( 10 kg in a month ), but I used to eat whatever I felt like, and my appetite control kicked in within 3 days. I was lucky. that doesn't mean if your experience is different, that there's anything wrong with you, or that you're doing anything wrong.

22 Oct 2012 1:43 AM

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Women do find it harder and that's mostly because of all the hormones. If your taking any sort of hormones (like the pill), the body finds a way to balance out the hormones which would be why some things comes with warnings like you'll gain weight or loose weight. If you find that you can't control things, use a simple app or spreadsheet to keep track of what your eating. I find myself sometimes I can easily over eat, prior to going sugar free it never really harmed too much however now after being sugar free I put on a lot of weight if I over eat.